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Alien Bees and Outdoor Shots
I have a 400 and 800 AB set up and am very happy with it in studio shots I have done. Just got the vagabond 150 power pack for it, and was wondering if anyone has used this set up for outdoor shots of a model or couple under cloudy skies, or by making a covering over the models to give diffused light? Sep 28 05 06:06 pm Link I have used AB800's outdoors with extension cords at night. The pool shots and motorcycle shots of Roxsi were done with AB's at night. Sep 28 05 06:12 pm Link Luis Solorzano wrote: You only need one light and an umbrella for what you want to do. Place the subject's back toward the light and use the AB as fill, a stop or so down. Sep 28 05 06:31 pm Link Luis Solorzano wrote: Under cloudy skies. Sep 28 05 07:08 pm Link Walter Arce, also on MM, has used an Alien Bees light with the battery in bright sunlight. If you look at my model port: 19909, the one of me screaming while tearing my shirt open, was done with me facing away from the sun, the light shining on me and the sun behind me. If that made sense. I love this and often recreate it with a reflector, since I don't have an alien bees light..... Sep 28 05 07:21 pm Link I use AB's outside almost everytime I shoot. I guess the major trick is, knowing if you wanna overpower the natural sunlight and darken your background. Or just your AB's as a fill flash. This shot was done facing INTO the sunlight. While this shot was with the sunlight behind me. BTW, all powered via the Vegabound 150.. Ya might look into one, they'll free you up from the bloodly wall plugs and give you almost endless possibilites in your work.. ~Darren Sep 28 05 08:25 pm Link Are there alternatives to the Vagabond battery? Sep 28 05 11:38 pm Link Daniel Kwan wrote: Yes. Somewhere in the depth of these fora there's a link, but the search is broken, so I don't know what it is. Anyway, others know better, but it involves any battery with a pure sine wave inverter or something. Sep 28 05 11:47 pm Link Daniel Kwan wrote: Elinchrom Sep 29 05 12:05 am Link Here's the thread: Battery Charged Packs Comparing to the converters the Vagabond actually isn't that good of a deal. Sep 29 05 12:09 am Link I know nothing about electrical stuff, but from what I read, I'm guessing AlienBees B800 monolights should be able to use this [Xantrex Xpower] without problems? Thanks for the responses. Sep 29 05 07:32 pm Link Daniel Kwan wrote: Thats a modified sine wave,,,not a good idea...in fact Xantrex even says on their site someplace not to use their modified sine wave inverters with strobes.... Sep 29 05 08:38 pm Link Daniel Kwan wrote: Well, ok, I do know something about electrical stuff (pulling out the electrical engineering degrees). Sep 30 05 01:13 am Link Hmm ok. Thanks for all the info. Sep 30 05 02:51 am Link I have a vagabond and love it. I bought it with my AB's for outside but bring it along any time I'm not sure if power is close. It takes up less space and weight than dragging a 100ft extension cord. For the price, size, and the amount of flashes a given unit will provide (even the single cell) they can't be beat. Sep 30 05 10:36 am Link Sep 30 05 03:36 pm Link Are you guys using an umbrella or softbox with them, or just the reflector? Sep 30 05 04:53 pm Link I started this discussion on Alien Bees and thank everyone for their comments. I am really trying to learn my new Alien Bees and was wondering if on the shot linked by Jarod if you all use an umbrella/softbox or did you just aim the 7" reflector at people? Luis Oct 01 05 05:26 pm Link **BUMP** Oct 04 05 08:11 am Link I use the Vagabond with Alien Bees fairly frequently for on-location work. Never have had a problem with it and I highly recommend it. This shot was taken this past spring during the evening using one AB1600 and the Vagabond with a 48"x18" PhotoFlex HalfDome softbox. Best regards, John Oct 04 05 10:31 am Link Bill and Luis, The reflectors are really small. Meaning you'd get super harsh light. There may be someone who uses it without a SB or umbrella but not many. Paul Oct 04 05 02:05 pm Link Thanks Paul, I thought it was somewhat obvious, but it wasn't mentioned in any of the posts, so I wanted to get that clarified. Oct 04 05 03:46 pm Link Here's one I just edited up from last week. This was shot in slightly overcast conditions with 2 ab's. I didn't use the vagabond since I had an outlet nearby but it would have worked too. The main light is camera right and is just the 7 inch reflector with some silk over the front as diffusion. I would have used my beauty dish if I had room in the car for it but this works well if you pay attention to your angles. I even prefer it to a very soft light in some ways. The second light behind the model and camera left is just an open standard 7 inch reflector. Oct 05 05 12:12 am Link |