Joe K. Perez wrote:
VirtuaMike: Update your profile tomorrow stating you're no longer doing TFP and let's see how much plenty you got left over   Oh, and what JHoward means by "the filters" is, filtering against GWCs. har. Like I'm supposed to be one. Yeah right.

TFP works for me, been making good progress

Of course surely they're interested in the images and not just the fact that I'm still open to TFP.

VirtuaMike wrote:
TFP works for me, been making good progress

Of course surely they're interested in the images and not just the fact that I'm still open to TFP.

Confident about that? Then, test it. State the usual dosey-doh, "Due to my hectic schedule, I'm no longer available to do TFP" and stick by it for six months. First to see if you're addicted, second, a good way to see if the images you have on your various ports and sites can stand on their own. If you're able to bring in one wedding client based on the quality of your existing images (paying the standard rate for mid-to-large wedding), then hey, you got the sanity check you always needed.

Joe K. Perez wrote:

Confident about that? Then, test it. State the usual dosey-doh, "Due to my hectic schedule, I'm no longer available to do TFP" and stick by it for six months. First to see if you're addicted, second, a good way to see if the images you have on your various ports and sites can stand on their own. If you're able to bring in one wedding client based on the quality of your existing images, then hey, you got the sanity check you always needed.

What exactly would my portfolio have to do with getting a wedding client? Last I checked, I wasn't aware that photography as a profession was a priority of mine. I have bigger goals. Besides I'm not sure what reducing my availability would actually accomplish.

VirtuaMike wrote:
What exactly would my portfolio have to do with getting a wedding client? Last I checked, I wasn't aware that photography as a profession was a priority of mine. I have bigger goals. Besides I'm not sure what reducing my availability would actually accomplish.

Okay. It's not your priority. Still, you stated, "Of course surely they're interested in the images and not just the fact that I'm still open to TFP". Well, I gave you a way to test that theory. What is a mere six months for someone not in the profession?

Joe K. Perez wrote:
Okay. It's not your priority. Still, you stated, "Of course surely they're interested in the images and not just the fact that I'm still open to TFP". Well, I gave you a way to test that theory. What is a mere six months for someone not in the profession?

Considering that my entire MM portfolio was built in the last 6 months with the bulk coming from Sept onward, I'd say it's significant.

And if you can't detect the sarcasm in that statement you quoted, then oh well.

VirtuaMike wrote:

Considering that my entire MM portfolio was built in the last 6 months with the bulk coming from Sept onward, I'd say it's significant.

And if you can't detect the sarcasm in that statement you quoted, then oh well.

Sarcasm can often be difficult to detect on the net, but I thought this instance was glaringly obvious

VirtuaMike wrote:
Considering that my entire MM portfolio was built in the last 6 months with the bulk coming from Sept onward, I'd say it's significant.

And if you can't detect the sarcasm in that statement you quoted, then oh well.

Gary Davis wrote:
Sarcasm can often be difficult to detect on the net, but I thought this instance was glaringly obvious

Sorry. Didn't see it. Wasn't looking for it anyhow, nor do I understand, or care about the intention behind it. Unless, it's something that applies in a positive manner for all working Photographers. Then, I'm interested in the meaning. Otherwise, I could give a flying fuck.

In regards to your statistics, what is the significance? I don't get it. As a Professional photojournalist back in my Army days, I cranked out three times as much as you in two months. What does it mean in the grand scheme of business things? Not a damn thing. To me, "significant" equals a major promotion, or cold, hard money cash and a list of clients paying, or not. Some of who are noteworthy even. I've shot Barbi Benton during a USO show. So what? Significance is not a website filled with nothing but TFP shots from a short duration featuring typical people and items found on the common street, or TFP hungry model wannabes just checkin out the scene or looking for a significant other or hookup and, or the occasional street clown wearing a tu-tu.

Significance is a Profit and Loss statement at the end of the year that shows you can feed and clothe yourself and family from your photography efforts.

Pretty pictures and compliments found on sites like these do nothing but feed the ego and vanity. After awhile, it behooves of you to do a sanity check. So, I'm asking you to try one suggestion. I dare you.

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Joe K. Perez wrote:
Significance is a Profit and Loss statement at the end of the year that shows you can feed and clothe yourself and family from your photography efforts.

Pretty pictures and compliments found on sites like these do nothing but feed the ego and vanity. After awhile, it behooves of you to do a sanity check. So, I'm asking you to try one suggestion. I dare you.

First the inability to detect sarcasm, and now I'm getting taken out of context. My significance statement earlier was addressing your "mere six months" comment hence the statistics, but since we're here . . .

We have differing reasons as to why we shoot. To me significance is progress - I gain satisfaction in seeing improvement in my images. I see the world differently now. I view people differently now. Is it out of your definition of sanity to believe there is more to photography than the money? If it feeds your ego to call me out then enjoy, but I take pride in my work and it stands on its own.

I'd be more worried about your ability to read and comprehend than my sanity. I already know I'm nuts.

VirtuaMike wrote:

First the inability to detect sarcasm, and now I'm getting taken out of context. My significance statement earlier was addressing your "mere six months" comment hence the statistics, but since we're here . . .

We have differing reasons as to why we shoot. To me significance is progress - I gain satisfaction in seeing improvement in my images. I see the world differently now. I view people differently now. Is it out of your definition of sanity to believe there is more to photography than the money? If it feeds your ego to call me out then enjoy, but I take pride in my work and it stands on its own.

I'd be more worried about your ability to read and comprehend than my sanity. I already know I'm nuts.

Sorry if I didn't get your sarcasm right away. Some styles of sarcasm is obvious to different people and some aren't. And so? Now, you're getting defensive, thinking I'm calling you out, when I saw and sprang at an opportunity to invite you to try a test. A friendly test and nothing, but a test. Now, you're taking a pot shot at my reading comprehension ability. Silly boy.

Since I immigrated to this country, I have always been concerned about increasing my reading, writing and counting abilities, which is why I'm able to make the money I do every year with the potential to triple that if I really, really wanted to apply myself and quadruple it if I incorporated some bullshit and cons into my repertoire, and double the quadruple if I didn't have to sleep, but I don't. Plus, I like to sleep like a lazy cat on some days.

Joe K. Perez wrote:
Sorry if I didn't get your sarcasm right away. Some styles of sarcasm is obvious to different people and some aren't. And so? Now, you're getting defensive, thinking I'm calling you out, when I saw and sprang at an opportunity to invite you to try a test. A friendly test and nothing, but a test. Now, you're taking a pot shot at my reading comprehension ability. Silly boy.

Since I immigrated to this country, I have always been concerned about increasing my reading, writing and counting abilities, which is why I'm able to make the money I do every year with the potential to triple that if I really, really wanted to apply myself and quadruple it if I incorporated some bullshit and cons into my repertoire, and double the quadruple if I didn't have to sleep, but I don't. Plus, I like to sleep like a lazy cat on some days.

I wasn't taking a pot shot. I was only stating the obvious. Congratulations on your financial success but your people skills and humility could use work. Silly boy could easily be misconstrued as derogatory.

Regarding your test, thank you but no. One thing I've realized about photography is that it's something I need to figure out on my own. If you think you've made it then more power to you.

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Joe K. Perez wrote:
Mike,

One thing that does concern me is that I think you're a Model Manager and have access to at least one model profile I'm aware of to play mind games. I find it funny that this one model tagged my port, and a couple of minutes later, sent a private msg saying, "let's shoot" and when I replied to her to call me (as a test), I find that she went and tagged your port and a minute or two later, you tag her port. This kinda has me suspecting that it's not one of those random coincidental things.

So, are you logging on as her and playing games? I checked just now to see if she read my message and funny thing, it was read right around the same time you came back online a while ago and inserted your latest reply to this thread.

Hmm.

Funny thing you know. When she was online making the tags last night, it was around the same time you were making replies to this thread and tagging her port.

C'mon now man. If you're doing that, and biting off of William Hung's popularity to increase yours, don't you think you should be more concerned with that versus my ability to detect your sarcasm?

Humor me man. Humor me.

Oh snap. I've been discovered!!!

I just can't come up with anything witty to say after hearing something like that. There really are crazier people than me.

Joe K. Perez wrote:
Oh. I have a question too Mike that's been bugging me for a couple of months now and I've been wanting to ask you personally, but since we're here... How come ever since you shot with Angela, she stopped speaking to me, replying back to my e-mail, and phone call? I find that kinda strange and out of character for her.

I've been playing Lambs with her. It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.

VirtuaMike wrote:

I wasn't taking a pot shot. I was only stating the obvious. Congratulations on your financial success but your people skills and humility could use work. Silly boy could easily be misconstrued as derogatory.

Regarding your test, thank you but no. One thing I've realized about photography is that it's something I need to figure out on my own. If you think you've made it then more power to you.

You're denying you took a pot shot at my reading comprehension? C'mon man. Are you the queen of de nile?

VirtuaMike wrote:

Oh snap. I've been discovered!!!

I just can't come up with anything witty to say after hearing something like that. There really are crazier people than me.

How can you have heard what I typed? Oh, you mean, "read something like that". You should be concerned with your grammar.

Joe K. Perez wrote:

You're denying you took a pot shot at my reading comprehension? C'mon man. Are you the queen of de nile?

Reiterating, yes. Denying, no.

VirtuaMike wrote:
I'd be more worried about your ability to read and comprehend

VirtuaMike wrote:
I wasn't taking a pot shot.

VirtuaMike wrote:
Reiterating, yes. Denying, no.

I must have a vision problem too.

Joe K. Perez wrote:

VirtuaMike wrote:
I'd be more worried about your ability to read and comprehend

VirtuaMike wrote:
I wasn't taking a pot shot.

I must have a vision problem too.

Hint. When I said I was stating the obvious, that was another instance of my sarcasm.

VirtuaMike wrote:

Hint. When I said I was stating the obvious, that was another instance of my sarcasm.

Well, you fun filled sarcastic bundle of a joy you. How could I have missed that!? Will you please stop communicating in simple English and stick to basic smoke signals?

Joe K. Perez wrote:

Well, you fun filled sarcastic bundle of a joy you. How could I have missed that!? Will you please stop communicating in simple English and stick to basic smoke signals?

Very well then. Puff puff give, puff puff give.

VirtuaMike wrote:

Very well then. Puff puff give, puff puff give.

Ungawa.

Note in private journal: After some personal research and experimentation on some indigenous island code named "MM", it's easy to see why the native inhabitants stuck to the use of bongos as the preferred, defacto tool for long distance communication. Much to learn, but I feel I am making progress. If it were not for the tie I wore, I probably would've mated with the Chief's daughter.

JHoward wrote:
Joe - I didn't at all mean to imply that you're a GWC, I'm sorry if that's what you took my meaning to be.

Thanks J. It's cool. I didn't take it to heart. Technically I am a guy, but has a camera. Not "with" a camera. As if it were my date, or something. Har. Har, har.