qphotonyc wrote:
sounds like she was working at the time & maybe in another moment she'd be more conversational...or maybe not.

hummm, could be..... she coulden't think of the name of the person she was assisting? diden't know the equiopment she was holding was old? and generally seemed like she coulden't really talk....

I only comment on this because, it seems like if it were me, I would like to think I could talk, did know the name of the person I was helping, at a minimum.

just the general demenor of other photogs while out-

Scaramanga wrote:
Master Image Photograph: was it clear you were also on a shoot at the time of this conversation? I didn't get that from your description. I have certainly been in Malibu near other fotogs and been completely ignored. As for this woman, was she attractive? This is Southern California, after all, and you know how a lot of the lookers in this town can be. I once approached a woman in the Beverly Center about taking pics and she completely ignored me as I walked beside her, and trust me, I am not intimidating or roguish in the least. That experience was an eye opener. I realized there are people in this city who are just flat out rude, even when you approach them with respect and decency.

Thank you for validating me living in the good ol' OC...well this was where she was standing awaiting I assume for her photog boss, and the wedding party as they exited the limo- she was quite some distance away from them, just standing there. I walked up to her becasue she had this old light and most people I think like to talk about themselves or their stuff- so I commented about it, I had my camera in my tameron bag, slung over my shoulder....she was younger and attractive-

Master Image Photograph wrote:
....she was younger and attractive-

That says it all, unfortunately.

Scaramanga wrote:

That says it all, unfortunately.

yeah but she was not amazingly hot, just attractive, in an above average way, just ok-

I think she was just rude or down right clueless.

John Allan wrote:
Now...
I'm not a woman - I'm a man.
I'm not a photographer's assistant - I'm the photographer.

But, when I'm doing a location shoot, the last thing in the world I want, is some other photographer, who happens to be strolling by, engaging me in 'photo' conversation.
I'm working, I'm in my own world...

But that's just me...

John

fair enough- but time after time, I'd think I'd be happy to just be out on a beautiful day making money, and someone smiles and says hi, or asked about a piece of equipment, it certainly woulen't be any skin off my nose to be polite and give a friendly answear-

but that's just me-

Master Image Photograph wrote:

fair enough- but time after time, I'd think I'd be happy to just be out on a beautiful day making money, and someone smiles and says hi, or asked about a piece of equipment, it certainly woulen't be any skin off my nose to be polite and give a friendly answear-

but that's just me-

Why do you care so much to be polite with someone you don't know in the first place, or someone with you?

Master Image Photograph wrote:
I said nice day out isn't it... she ignored me, I said, boy.....that sure looks like an old time light from norman, and still no reply as I looked right at her two feet away.

I said, so is that an old camera flash, her repsonse was oh I don't know-
I said well you can see just from looking at it, and I pointed to it and it was all old looking, and paint chipping off.

She said nothing

At least now you know those aren't very good pickup lines.

Master Image Photograph wrote:
...

Anyone ever get weird looks, or when you smile at another photog out on location like at the beach, they just almost stair you down, with a frown.....lol


What are some experiences you have to share, am I all alone?

Years ago in trying to find a pro to be a mentor to me I visited several nearby photographers. On stopped me before I could open my portfolio and said "if that's what I think it is, I don't even want to see it," then walked away and disappeared into their studio before I could answer.

The next one did not look at my portfolio either and had their assistant talk to me. I left me information but never heard anything.

I have had bad luck in trying to just talk to established photographers.

Henry

DragonFlyImage wrote:
Try carring a nice camera around Seattle people make you feel like your a undercover photoguy taking pics of them b/c they are cheating on there wifes and your the sleeezzz bag surveillance guy snapping away to get the proof... but maybe that was just me

I was in my small town's allies taking some pics of things like trees and weird thing that people put out in the trash. (Okay, im weird.) Anyway, one guy came rushing out of his back door acussing me of spying on him. He even accused me of working for a specific person. When I tried to explain the art photography that I was doing, he called me a lier. I finally walked away. *shrug*

Henry

Marko Cecic-Karuzic wrote:
Let's see... holding what sounds like a Norman 400B and no camera? Definitely an assistant. Definitely would piss the boss off for shooting the breeze with a passerby and not being johnnie-on-the-spot for him.

This could be. The might not be happy about the job, maybe was notified about the shoot last moment, maybe had a fight with the photographer, maybe was lectured about not paying attention.

Its rude, and I understand. But, as in me other message, I have been snubbed by photographers several times. Even somewhat threatened by one "territorial" one to stay out of the business. With an "or else" tone in his voice. Now I have trouble getting models. Hmmmm.

Henry

Julia Gerace wrote:
all I know is that everyone always has better equipment than me and I always feel like a loser....

simply put, dont...it is the person behind the lens that is the most important variable in the capture of an image...there are members who own the latest and greatest Nikon or Canon creation and their work looks like three dogs engaging in sexual intercourse.



your portfolio makes your statement, and you have a very strong statment to make.

Taj Elmelik wrote:
Why is so difficult for you to swallow up the idea that someone simply doesent wanna talk to u?? phtography is not a religion that demean photographer who does not like to answer to other photographers, if they like to use old gear or new , its totally up to them. you seem sacastice and not nice at all talking about she is not amazingly hot, or the old Norman Flash, bitter about the whole thing, get over it, as long as you feel hotter and more up to date in your gears and flashes.

I didn't take it the same way.......it didn't seem to me that he was knocking her gear, but was trying to make friendly banter because of a common link. How she took it who knows....I think his whole point was that she was that rude when he was only trying to be nice and strike up a little conversation....if it wasn't a good time to talk she could have said so.......if she were in the middle of something I doubt he would have talked to her.....I dunno, maybe there was some misunderstanding....but I too have found many other photographers to be rude or snooty, even off the job, it's a shame more can't network and not be that way.

Pitaru wrote:

Why do you care so much to be polite with someone you don't know in the first place, or someone with you?

Your question pretty much answears your own question...I guess though for me it's about treating others as I wouls want to be treated-

Just common decency- I guess you could say- does that help you to understand why I asked the question in the first place?

If we assumed everyone diden't care, and coulden't muster enough pleasant attitude to even talk to a fellow human being, then doesen't that make those humans, less than human, no emotion= no care= pretty much don't care about our fellow human being, that could transfer to a society like we have,,, so many people stepping on everyone else to get ahead some even to the point of hurting others.

WHen all we need is just to smile and say hi, in the first place, unless of course your just not a nice person-

Jay Farrell wrote:

I didn't take it the same way.......it didn't seem to me that he was knocking her gear, but was trying to make friendly banter because of a common link. How she took it who knows....I think his whole point was that she was that rude when he was only trying to be nice and strike up a little conversation....if it wasn't a good time to talk she could have said so.......if she were in the middle of something I doubt he would have talked to her.....I dunno, maybe there was some misunderstanding....but I too have found many other photographers to be rude or snooty, even off the job, it's a shame more can't network and not be that way.

Oh yes, your exactly right, thank you for making and supporting my point, this other person you replied to wanted to quickly jump on me and make assumptions, they couln't be more wrong- they made assumptions of me without ever talking to me or knowing the full account of what happend, one can make general observations, but to tell me I was the one being rude, or putting another person down for older equip is laughable, I in fact was trying to make small talk while she stood there waiting...she could have said oh....yeah it's that good ol' stuff yo ucan't beat the dependablilty, she could have known the name of the guy she was working for, lol....and it's just a case of her being a space cadet more than anything I think- my opinion of her not being"that hot" I'm intitled to my own opionions....

Thanks for your help on this post !

Daniel Kwan wrote:

At least now you know those aren't very good pickup lines.

LOL, interesting you thought it was a pick up line- I'm married with two kids-

Scott wrote:
I too have tried to strike up a few friendly conversations after another photographer was done with a shoot in the same area, too which I had luck and have since collaborated with him a few times with great results!  I think that was probly an isolated incident, but well worth the chance of it turning bad!

However, I have read that it is inappropriate and in poor taste for assistants to do anything but their task at hand.

So the assistant is standing on the corner I assume waiting for the photog she is with, too get to where she is, maybe he/she is talking to the wedding party, she appears to just be holding the equipment,  no one is talking to her, we are talkng here in this instance of a 30 seconds or a minute of time,

So while your an assistant your precluded from being friendly or knowing the name of the person your assisting, I take it this was probably her first time assisting, and once again, seemed to just be a little spacey....

Pitaru wrote:

Why do you care so much to be polite with someone you don't know in the first place, or someone with you?

thats just how americans are

Master Image Photograph wrote:
fair enough- but time after time, I'd think I'd be happy to just be out on a beautiful day making money, and someone smiles and says hi, or asked about a piece of equipment, it certainly woulen't be any skin off my nose to be polite and give a friendly answear-

but that's just me-

Maybe she's been chewed out for fraternizing and not paying attention to her job while on location?  Never know.  Plus, as a photog, I wouldn't mind someone asking me questions and being polite.  But I will admit, I'd be a little irked if someone (especially a photog) was chatting it up with my assistant(s).

Master Image Photograph wrote:
LOL, interesting you thought it was a pick up line- I'm married with two kids-

And I'm sure you were the first married guy with two kids that tried to hit on her.

The photographer probably gave her strict instructions not to talk to anyone.

You know how fickle those wedding photographers can be

The Don Mon wrote:
maybe you couldnt figure out that she didnt feel like talking to someone right then........and wanted you to go away...

Oh that's funny, no I don't think so.....sounds like the thought process of another rude individual.

DigitalCMH wrote:

Maybe she's been chewed out for fraternizing and not paying attention to her job while on location?  Never know.  Plus, as a photog, I wouldn't mind someone asking me questions and being polite.  But I will admit, I'd be a little irked if someone (especially a photog) was chatting it up with my assistant(s).

Please let's air on the side of assuming that I'm just a regular tourist with an eye for old camera equipment, maybe I just stood there looking at the limo-hummer and as she stood there (like in an elivator) you look over and make small talk....

interesting how people want to blame me for talking to another person, or let her off the hook (keep in mind she did not even know the name of the person she was assisting), or at least coulden't get it right....
lol,  funny people want to make all kinds of assumptions-

I just brought up the topic, as it reminded me of how clueless some people are, but still mangage to make money from this business.

Master Image Photograph wrote:
I tried to make conversation with a woman today holding an old norman
flash and what looked like an old power supply.

I said nice day out isn't it... she ignored me, I said, boy.....that sure looks like an old time light from norman, and still no reply as I looked right at her two feet away.

I said, so is that an old camera flash, her repsonse was oh I don't know-
I said well you can see just from looking at it, and I pointed to it and it was all old looking, and paint chipping off.

She said nothing, I said so.....(long pause) what's the name of your company, she said oh I'm not the photographer I'm his assistant.

I said oh I see....well is that the wedding party your helping with, she said yeah- (large wedding party exiting a hummer limo (newport beach)
I said oh nice weather for that....she said nothing, I said. so what's the name of the photographers comapny, she said A - something, A- and a name and then she said, oh maybe it's photography, and not photogapher....

Clueless- I guess....just try to be nice and friendly and it's like talking to a brick wall-

Anyone ever get weird looks, or when you smile at another photog out on location like at the beach, they just almost stair you down, with a frown.....lol


What are some experiences you have to share, am I all alone?

You should have taken out your camera and started snapping photos of her standing there...and see if you got a reaction..

Studio200 wrote:

You should have taken out your camera and started snapping photos of her standing there...and see if you got a reaction..

LOL that's funny