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EF

Posts: 43

Vancouver, Washington, US

I want to shoot some musicians this year. Probably I'll start with a couple of co-workers, but I'm really interested in doing some live performances.Which of course can mean low light. I have done only a few musician shots, and they were more like portraits. There are three in my portfolio.

I mainly work on the business side of the movie/video camera business. I have access to that sort of gear, but I need to re-equip my stills gear after selling all my film stuff and taking a break.

So, the question is, if you've shot musical performers, what did you absolutely need? Specific flash gear? Favourite lenses? I know Canon better, but I'm very open minded. All digital now though.

Techniques that work well for you? Dealing with geting good angles where the subject is elevated? Hillarious stories? Anything you're willing to share...

Thanks.

Jan 19 07 09:43 pm Link

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Boho Foto

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Atchison, Kansas, US

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Mr Anthony

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Vancouver, Washington, US

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Jan 19 07 11:06 pm Link

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David Simpson Images

Posts: 1328

Bangor, Maine, US

I have gelled my flash to match the lighting. I used a Sunpack 611 The venue had a second floor balcony type arrangement and I used a longer lens. The bands were my roommates and a good friend so I didnt have the horror story and I got to hang with the band.  LOL

Jan 19 07 11:16 pm Link

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Shannon Fontaine

Posts: 306

Nashville, Tennessee, US

Mr Anthony wrote:

bullets.

now THAT'S funny smile

seriously, try putting your flash on manual and power it down to one quarter or lower, amp up the iso, open up the f stops, then use rear curtain sync at a 30th of a second (ish) and see what you get.

as to the earlier post about musicians having no money yeah that's usually true but they WILL pay for promo shots-CD cover type stuff so if you're shooting in venues and it goes well you might consider trying to market yourself that way

Jan 19 07 11:25 pm Link

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Craig Thomson

Posts: 13462

Tacoma, Washington, US

My first time shooting a band.

17-50/2.8
1/60
second curtain sync on both camera and speed light
speed light set at 1/8 power or so for fill.

https://www.studioseven.us/gallery/files/1/0/1/6/IMG_5435copy.jpg

https://www.studioseven.us/gallery/files/1/0/1/6/IMG_5405copy.jpg


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Jan 19 07 11:31 pm Link

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Photo-op

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Asbury Park, New Jersey, US

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Jan 19 07 11:36 pm Link

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DarioImpiniPhotography

Posts: 8756

Dallas, Texas, US

Retro Photo wrote:
Take my comments with a bit of a grain of salt, as I am quite burnt out on bands at the moment.

If you want to make any money on music, turn and run now. You won't. What little extra money musicians have will go for beer, cigarettes, women, etc. Sometimes they will even "jokingly" tell you they can't afford to pay you for this very reason. Haha.

Yeah, having been in many bands over the years, I can tell you those guys work as hard or harder than you for very little money too.  95% of bands are perpetually broke.  Its a miserable market unless you swing with the big boys.  You might as well be a rock star yourself because precious few photographers get access to the top guys who actually pay for their pix.

Jan 19 07 11:39 pm Link

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Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9782

Bellingham, Washington, US

Other than shooting Hank Wiliams Jr. for a Washburn Guitar Catalog I have only shot the local bar bands. If you are shooting bands to make money I hope you like Top Ramen! I don't shoot bands anymore. I've shot a few, the key is to get paid WHEN YOU SHOW UP WITH YOUR CAMERA!! I always make it clear that I will reshoot if there are no good shots but put cash in my hand or I am going home. Live stuff is fun but hard to shoot. I would get an old 35mm slr and a 50 1.4 manual focus, they are very affordable now. Nothing fancy, I do like a split image in the center of the screen. There are films with a higher ISO than digital. Shoot a roll of color and a roll of black and white, hand them to the band and go home with your $100. They will kick out the bass player and ask for a reshoot if you try to sell them prints like you might with civilized people. Or just use the snapshots their buddy took. Hardest one to get is the drummer, they hide behind all their gear. Just walk right up on stage and shoot him. Or stand on a chair. If it is a rowdy crowd you will need to be careful. If someone bumps into you, body slam them back into the mosh and then go to another spot before they come back for revenge. I used to use a Nikon F and I never had to split anybody's skull with it but it is nice to know that you could! I would rather shoot them at one of their practices, you can get a couple of those yellow 500 watt work lights for $20, it is all they deserve! By the way, played professionally for 20+ years. Had a lot of fun, met some sweet ladies (too many of them were other men's wives tho) and made a few dimes. I got some good tear sheets in the local paper. If I had to do it all over again I would pass on shooting bands. Have fun!!

Jan 20 07 02:34 am Link

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EF

Posts: 43

Vancouver, Washington, US

Retro Photo wrote:
Take my comments with a bit of a grain of salt, as I am quite burnt out on bands at the moment.

Thanks, everyone for these cool and very informative answers. This is something I'm interested in for fun, and not that I'm counting on to make money. You guys have some awesome band and concert pics. I have restarted learning bass after an extended break, and it gave me the idea to do some of this.

Jan 20 07 02:52 am Link

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Dobias Fine Art Photo

Posts: 1697

Haddon Heights, New Jersey, US

They think that singing into a microphone makes it look like they are singing instead of giviing a blow job or honking horns like a trained seal 

Snap them out of it

Jan 20 07 02:54 am Link

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Dobias Fine Art Photo

Posts: 1697

Haddon Heights, New Jersey, US

Excellent example of a blow-job shot.

Craig Thomson wrote:
My first time shooting a band.

17-50/2.8
1/60
second curtain sync on both camera and speed light
speed light set at 1/8 power or so for fill.

https://www.studioseven.us/gallery/files/1/0/1/6/IMG_5435copy.jpg

https://www.studioseven.us/gallery/files/1/0/1/6/IMG_5405copy.jpg


Hair flip
https://www.studioseven.us/gallery/files/1/0/1/6/IMG_5455copy.jpg

https://www.studioseven.us/gallery/files/1/0/1/6/IMG_5399copy.jpg

Jan 20 07 02:55 am Link

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Ashley Barrett Photo

Posts: 628

PLAYA DEL REY, California, US

trying to get musicians together for a shoot is a nightmare. solo artists are cool & easy, though.

Hope you're cool with weed...

asmile

Jan 20 07 02:57 am Link

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Dobias Fine Art Photo

Posts: 1697

Haddon Heights, New Jersey, US

Hope you're cool with blow jobs and very phallic symbolism.

Ashley Barrett Photo wrote:
trying to get musicians together for a shoot is a nightmare. solo artists are cool & easy, though.

Hope you're cool with weed...

asmile

Jan 20 07 03:02 am Link

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ElitePhotosPhotography

Posts: 729

Los Angeles, California, US

here's one of my shots from completing some concert work.  I guess I must have been lucky because there was no three song minimum for me.  I was right on stage and was there the entire night.

https://www.elitephotos.net/images/beyonce01.jpg

Jan 20 07 03:19 am Link

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Janusz Miller

Posts: 39

ok... so when i was to take photos at a gig i quickly realized, that using the lightmeter is damn hard when u have lights everywhere in all colors and constalnty moving and musicians running all over the stage, so i simply switched to all manual mode, set some aperture (i guess i didn't care much which one was it... ) and had some fun with the time values ranging from 1/8th to 1,5s i guess, with the flash firing when the shutter opens. I didn't even have a dslr at that time.... now i would do the same thing more or less, of course with a better flash and some wider lens. Watchout for ur equippment, i had my camera accidently kicked a couple of times by some stagedivers (and yes, i was on stage at these moments) :>

https://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4325/gig18hd.jpg

https://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8914/gig34ki.jpg

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Jan 20 07 03:20 am Link

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215 Studios

Posts: 3453

Center Point, Texas, US

Is it sick of me that, everytime I see this thread, I immediately think of John Lennon...and the fact that Yoko was standing right next to him and didn't get even ONE round?

-Major

Jan 20 07 03:22 am Link

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AmbientEye

Posts: 197

Columbia, Maryland, US

Prodigal M wrote:
Shoot a roll of color and a roll of black and white, hand them to the band and go home with your $100.

Don't do that. What if the band becomes famous? You just lost thousands of dollars selling those early images to the major magazines. Even if they don't go anywhere they could use it on merchandise. They pay the people who make the stuff, so why shouldn't they pay the people who make the artwork?

Anyway, yeah fast glass like everyone said.

Jan 20 07 03:36 am Link

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Pat Thielen

Posts: 16800

Hastings, Minnesota, US

I've heard the same things from other band photographers which is why when I do it it's just for fun. I usually just shoot wide open with a Nikon 17-35mm f2.8 lens, which usually gives me a shutter speed of slow... Actually, usually around 1/20 or so. I try to avoid using a flash, but the last time I shot a band I used it and the shots turned out rather well. I do recommend dragging the shutter in order to capture the ambient light, although your shutter speed will be quite slow. If you do use a slow shutter speed wait for those moments when the performer pauses their movements.

  This is a shot I took of Aesma Daeva in 2005 (a local symphonic metal band); there was no flash used on it:

  https://www.visi.com/~loki/Img0012258.jpg


  Here's the stats: Taken on 3-26-2005; 1/60 sec, f2.8, ISO 800, 35mm

Jan 20 07 03:44 am Link

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Stroke Of Light

Posts: 552

Spokane, Washington, US

i know this is a lucky shot of carie under wood! except i have another 400 of them from the same concert so maybe not so lucky. i had first row tickets(thanks to my fiances dad) then the security gaurd i was talking to befor the concert grabed me and said no cameras and put my in the buffer area between the crowd and the band where the other professionals were shooting and i i took this and the others images with my cheap p&s fuji s5100. i was just there enjoying the concert with my fiance but hell if i get the chance like this im taking it and my gf got in with me ................. lol the show was awsome and i got some good images https://img5.modelmayhem.com/061110/17/455506923100b.jpg

Jan 20 07 03:50 am Link

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Lightwave Photography

Posts: 585

Honolulu, Hawaii, US

Use fast glass-I use a Nikon 1.8 50mm with an ISO at least 800.

I also use a monopod so I can move around for great angles and reduce camera shake. 

AND DON'T USE FLASH, IF YOU DO MAKE SURE YOU GET PRIOR PERMISSION FROM THE PERFORMERS.

FLASH PICS WASH OUT ALL THE GOOD COLORS, LOOK SNAPSHOTTY, AMATEURISH AND PISS PEOPLE OFF.

And it's true musicians are pretty flakey close to models in flakiness.   At least half of them won't pay for pics and the best way to get any money is to get paid the night you photograph them and burn them a cd and be done with it.  It is a big pain to get them to meet you a few days later to view the pics-alot of NO SHOWS.

The good thing about it is it's good photography practice, gets me into alot of live music and comedy venues free and maybe one of them will get famous and hire me for their 100,000 audience gig someday.


https://k47.pbase.com/v3/99/492199/3/46356589.BWElvisandFanCloseup.jpghttps://k53.pbase.com/v3/99/492199/3/45973204.AlmostElvisPostercopy.jpg

https://i5.pbase.com/v3/99/492199/3/46406397.DSC_3737.jpg

https://i5.pbase.com/g3/99/492199/3/53495948.DSC_4949LR.jpg

The Elvis Tribute Artist, Jason Netherton, in the above pics is the best Ive ever seen and he's in Kelowna Canada lol.

He is one of the few that paid and you can see a bunch of my pics in his gallery at http://almostelvis.ca

Jan 20 07 04:01 am Link

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Red House Pacific

Posts: 277

Chula Vista, California, US

Jan 20 07 04:50 am Link