Lisa Moran wrote:

not ameteurs actually, working photographers that do more than nudes. terry does some major campaigns and editorials for instance

Terry who?

No you didn't get what I meant.
When I said "a bad copy of Playboy shot by amateurs" I didn't mean to say Penthouse is shot by amateurs. I meant amataurs shooting a bad copy of Playboy....oh never mind!
lol

John Jebbia wrote:

I'm not sure I'm buying this. Take a look at their website afterall... perhaps this just applies to the magazine?

I subscribed to the website a couple of months ago and it's still pretty hardcore... though the most the pets do is spreads and stuff like that..

Yeah, I think the recent changes only apply to the print mag. The website and videos will stay the same.