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Am I being too harsh or is this work acceptable?
Edit: post moved..thank you for responding To make a very frustrating story short...i paid a retoucher on MM to redeem a few photos for me from a recent shoot. Two of the photos were a wardrobe stylist grave error in stying for my body type (think Plus Size Model in too tight spandex) and my silly fault for changing in the car without a mirror...lmao Amway, contact this guy, paid him via paypal and 4 days later still NOTHING not a peep from him since he got paid. I emailed him and told him that I understaod the photos were not the best and asked if he was having trouble. I also told him I would like to aprove the backgrouds if possible and this is why I was asking. His response was it takes 5-7 days to return a photo. Yeah..that seems awefully long but he wasnt costly and his work was great on his MM profile. So I was like..ok 5-7 days..ugg but ok as long as they are great! No word back from him about the appoval. Then on day 7...no word..lol I emailed him again and he told me he was having computer issues...i told him ok and asked him again was there trouble and he said no and will have the images today for you. No images..day 8 and 9 the same thing then on day 10 I got them and oh...what a hot mess! He told me he should have said 7 biz days because he was only really a day behind...lol see photos below..  First..who believes this scene could REALLY happen? Raise your hand?? Why would you combine such colors or environment. Go from a crazy funky look to a um..what is that?? If its going to be a museum...it should be a hip fancy museum and the photo should be on the inside. ....thoughts? ok then I got this one:  yeah i was HOT MESS that day! Look at my hair...lol but better yet..look at my hair in THAT shot. WTF...why does it look like i was cut and pasted on this da$% photo..? I like the concept..the theme is nice considering where the original photo was taken...so i was happy with that...but does this look like a job that could have taken more then a few mins to accomplish from someone that considers himself a professional? I really want to know.....maybe im wrong.. I should mention that I retouch for free on MM so im familiar with the effort and time this all can take..i DONT work with backgrounds however because frankly, Im just not that good at changing them...apparently, this guy is not either..lol Last but not least..my fav photo out of the bunch...I will let you figure out whats wrong with this one...wait..let me tell you...lol The DOF..the guy in the background was blurred out when the photographer took it in purposely....so i would be the main focus... anyone that knows photography knows this..this re-toucher is a photographer BTW...Why is my guy blurred and NOT my background?? PLEASE tell me....?? right now..i would be happy if he just took the guy out completely...lol it just doesnt make sense to me...  ok, so im listening to you guys..am i just being harsh because i was not satisfied after waiting 10 days for my photos? He never let me see them before releasing them..wont return the email i sent him once i got them back asking for him to fix the errors. im stupid i know...maybe i should not have paid him before hand...ugg..im frustrated and i need/want your advice. Take a look at his past work and tell me why my stuff is the only one that looks like a cut and paste job gone wrong... Is anyone out there willing to help me fix this?? just asking..i have no more money however..i gave him my last dime..  but really im just looking for advice. I was pretty upset when i finally got my photos along with a message that said "even my wedding customers arent this impatient"...Impatient??!! He did not communicate with me! I did not even have any say so in my photos..uggg....help!!!!!!Mar 05 10 09:06 am Link remove his MM number so the thread wont be locked and we can take it from there. also be prepared for what may be coming. Mar 05 10 09:15 am Link I personally dont feel outing someone on here is helping anyone at all.. You should take it up with him if your having issues. Mar 05 10 09:17 am Link Koray wrote: thank you done! Mar 05 10 09:18 am Link Start over..I don't think anything will be satisfactory. Mar 05 10 09:19 am Link Lunarimaging wrote: I tried..he wont return my messages. I removed the number..sorry that was my error but i wanted you to see how lovely his work was on everything else. He is really good..or at least is photos on mm was. Did you read my post..? i TRIED communication...thats why im asking yall. thank you though... Mar 05 10 09:20 am Link did you want to put this in critique? Mar 05 10 09:20 am Link I don't know the rules on 'critiquing' in this particular forum so I will say "Wow!" and leave it at that. Mar 05 10 09:22 am Link How much did you pay? It's work on his port similar to that? Also regarding turn around times most retouchers are working on more than just your photos which is why they may have longer turn around times. Also without the befores I can't really say if you are being harsh or not. If he had to remove you from a busy background that's pretty tough to do. Mar 05 10 09:23 am Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: humm should it be?? ok i will try to figure out how to move it...thank you..sorry everyone!! Not a regular poster in this area. Mar 05 10 09:23 am Link call it a day and move on Shay.. also maybe.. in the future consider shooting with real locations/backgrounds/sets rather than cut and paste versions.. these are fine for artistic work and some ads/covers..but limited.. I personally wouldnt use a fake background in my port photos.. just my ... Mar 05 10 09:25 am Link Nikki Magnusson wrote: thank you nikki..i was on location... Mar 05 10 09:28 am Link Shay Shaunte wrote: you seem to be a reasonable person I'll give you that. Mar 05 10 09:32 am Link I will be honest with you after seeing his port I think the work he gave you matches his port so I'm not sure what you were expecting. Mar 05 10 09:36 am Link Nikki Magnusson wrote: one more thing..the couples shot was a book cover..btw..the others would NEVER go in my port..those were for the wardrobe stylist..i promised her that type of photo for her website... Mar 05 10 09:37 am Link Shay Shaunte wrote: your welcome sweetie..heres some really great ones I did for myspace comments.. Mar 05 10 09:40 am Link Nikki Magnusson wrote: cracked me up Mar 05 10 09:45 am Link Koray wrote: go ahead and laugh.. Mar 05 10 09:48 am Link my dear, you dont need a retoucher, you need an art photographer like myself.. so next time you want a collage pay an artist, not a retoucher... Mar 05 10 09:50 am Link Nikki Magnusson wrote: yah thanks for that! it also made me smile...that was needed today:P Mar 05 10 09:50 am Link Nikki Magnusson wrote: these are quite good Mar 05 10 09:53 am Link Angela Michelle Perez wrote: this. Mar 05 10 09:56 am Link Uhmm . . . wow and junk Mar 05 10 09:58 am Link PE Art Photography wrote: lol..these are myspace quality crap.. Mar 05 10 09:58 am Link Angela Michelle Perez wrote: I agree. Mar 05 10 10:06 am Link 
Model Posts: 2116 Novolazarovskaya - permanent station of Russia, Sector claimed by Norway, Antarctica In the future when you are trying a retoucher other than the Photographer who shot the images, don't send him/her a batch of images and pay for all of it. Have a little patience and send one at a time. That's how you check if 1) they deliver when they say they do, 2) they can take direction, 3) they make reasonable corrections (like if you ask them to retouch something they missed, do they ignore you or tellyou tough luck it will cost extra, or do the take responsibility and add extra touch?) You also get to see how their signature treatment looks on YOUR photos. You might approach a really good retoucher who does pore by pore retouching (and charges accordingly) and realize that at the level of the team you are shooting with right now, that skill level is NOT necessary. If you have bad skin, if your photographer can't shoot beauty correctly (pics r out of focus, not lit for beauty, too dark/grainy) If make up artist can't blend and pick right colors, then NO amount of retouching will make your images look like the images on the retoucher's website. And if you are going to pay someone, it's better to pay a photographer that can light and focus properly than a retoucher who will have to work long and hard to fix what's wrong and you may still be left unsatisfied. And to answer your question yes, that is not grade A retouching. But it may be exactly in the style of the retoucher. And if that is the case, you are as much to blame for it as he/she is. Live and learn. Mar 05 10 10:36 am Link Koray wrote: At $10 an image I'm not entirely sure how much more she could have expected really and the work it's in the same style of the retouchers port. Mar 05 10 10:39 am Link Angela Michelle Perez wrote: this $10 issue is a subject all by itself. Mar 05 10 10:52 am Link Nikki Magnusson wrote: WOW!! You ARE a great model because you managed to duplicate the pose and expression exactly the same for each photo!!! Mar 05 10 10:57 am Link Shay Shaunte wrote: Wow, I'm not a retoucher/PS'er. Even then, I could do better. The top photo has serious scale and perspective errors. Classical mistake from someone good on the computer but lacks the visual knowledge. Mar 05 10 11:17 am Link If it was $10 an image as stated above. You got exactly what you paid for. Low fees = low expectations. I don't know of any decent photoshopper who would even open a file for that little. Mar 05 10 11:22 am Link Shay Shaunte wrote: ORLY? For what author? Mar 05 10 11:36 am Link PE Art Photography wrote: what ya say PE is true to a point. Some retouches just do exactly that. They just retouch pictures. Other retouchers can do everything and do it very well. Some just want to focus on retouching which is fantastic. Wish I could....but I'd probably go metal without zee dragons... :-P Mar 05 10 11:41 am Link Move on. Get over it. Its done. It was bad. What on earth is anyone here going to do for you. Next. Mar 05 10 11:45 am Link Ni Anluain wrote: thats certinly the way I look at it Ni! Mar 05 10 11:52 am Link can't be harsh if you actually paid for that unless it's 5$, then you got what you paid for...  Mar 05 10 12:47 pm Link omg, dear, i am so sorry. this sucks... but i do have to agree with some above posters: next time, try shooting with a great photog in a great location vs. putting that extra money into a photoshopper. i hope it goes better next time! oh, and for wiw, i love your avatar. Mar 05 10 12:53 pm Link |
