Forums > Critique > Fun and Games > Pro, amateur or GWPW?

Photographer

David Pollack

Posts: 1933

Wilmington, Delaware, US

Have not done this in a while.

Here are the rules:
1) No whining, if you don't like what you hear too f'in bad. What I have to say is meaningless unless you believe it has meaning.
2) Re-read rule 1.

So Pro, amateur or guy with paperweight?  the difference between pro and amateur is the quality of the images. The difference between pro/amateur and GWPW is intent. So if you have pages of "naked babes with swords/guns/hot rods" or pages of prurient images with zero effort at taking a quality photograph, I will have no problem using the GWPW title.  If you say you have "25 years experience as a professional photographer..." and your portfolio has a total or 4 photos of the same "model" shot with terrible styling, no lighting and a complete lack of post production skill, guess what, you are a GWPW.

If, on the other had, you are one of the tiny, tiny percentage of MM "photographers" with both talent and technical expertise, I will be ecstatic to sing your praises as a professional. If you say you are inexperienced/young/in school/etc but show signs of talent and desire, I will be happy to offer supportive comments and look forward to seeing your progression from amateur to professional.

Have at it. This will end, inevitably, when someone gets their knickers in a twist and gets nasty to me. If you can't take it, don't ask. PERIOD

Oct 18 13 10:11 pm Link

Photographer

Philip R

Posts: 698

Agoura Hills, California, US

First!

Oct 18 13 10:13 pm Link

Photographer

David Pollack

Posts: 1933

Wilmington, Delaware, US

Philip R wrote:
First!

Amateur

Oct 18 13 10:17 pm Link

Photographer

Philip R

Posts: 698

Agoura Hills, California, US

Correct!  Thanks for taking a look.

Your port is quite eclectic.

Oct 18 13 10:18 pm Link

Photographer

Dorola

Posts: 484

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Cock the hammer and pull the trigger.

Oct 18 13 10:27 pm Link

Photographer

Rik Williams

Posts: 4005

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Love to hear it

Oct 19 13 04:07 am Link

Photographer

Marin Photo NYC

Posts: 7348

New York, New York, US

GWPW! big_smile SHOOT ME!

Oct 19 13 04:24 am Link

Photographer

James Andrew Imagery

Posts: 6713

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Popping in.  Hello there.

Oct 19 13 08:30 am Link

Photographer

Jorge Kreimer

Posts: 3716

San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico

Yeah, sure!

Oct 19 13 09:10 am Link

Photographer

Kane

Posts: 1647

London, England, United Kingdom

smile

Oct 19 13 09:22 am Link

Photographer

AndyD10

Posts: 352

Dublin, Dublin, Ireland

ok...

Oct 22 13 02:42 am Link

Photographer

David Pollack

Posts: 1933

Wilmington, Delaware, US

Dorola wrote:
Cock the hammer and pull the trigger.

GWPW

Oct 22 13 07:44 am Link

Photographer

David Pollack

Posts: 1933

Wilmington, Delaware, US

Rik Williams wrote:
Love to hear it

Amateur

Oct 22 13 07:45 am Link

Photographer

David Pollack

Posts: 1933

Wilmington, Delaware, US

James Ogilvie wrote:
Popping in.  Hello there.

Amateur

Oct 22 13 07:45 am Link

Photographer

Leo Howard

Posts: 6850

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Sounds fun, I'll play

Oct 22 13 08:05 am Link

Photographer

Glamour by Glenn

Posts: 1033

Chattanooga, Tennessee, US

Time to put on my big boy shorts.

Oct 22 13 07:27 pm Link

Artist/Painter

CardboardStudios

Posts: 45

Edinburgh, Scotland, United Kingdom

ok. lay it on me.

Oct 22 13 07:41 pm Link

Photographer

DAN CRUIKSHANK

Posts: 1786

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Sure, if you are still at it.

Oct 22 13 07:54 pm Link

Model

Nicki Micki

Posts: 270

Charleston, South Carolina, US

Oct 22 13 08:54 pm Link

Model

Jacky Francis

Posts: 21

London, Ontario, Canada

I'd love to get some input; just take a look at my portfolio and let me know what you think smile

Oct 24 13 07:43 pm Link

Photographer

EdwardKristopher

Posts: 3409

Tempe, Arizona, US

Isn't it all about the Paper Weight?!  :-)

Oct 26 13 10:43 am Link

Photographer

Red Baron Photography

Posts: 330

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

beat me up:)

Oct 28 13 10:57 am Link

Photographer

David Pollack

Posts: 1933

Wilmington, Delaware, US

Marin Photography NYC wrote:
GWPW! big_smile SHOOT ME!

don't flatter yourself. not even.

Oct 28 13 01:30 pm Link

Photographer

David Pollack

Posts: 1933

Wilmington, Delaware, US

James Ogilvie wrote:
Popping in.  Hello there.

I hear wood carving makes a nice hobby.

Oct 28 13 01:31 pm Link

Photographer

H B P

Posts: 3592

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Sure, hit me.

Oct 28 13 01:34 pm Link

Photographer

Steve Thompson

Posts: 562

Los Angeles, California, US

Do tell.

Oct 28 13 01:34 pm Link

Photographer

David Pollack

Posts: 1933

Wilmington, Delaware, US

Jorge Kreimer wrote:
Yeah, sure!

you needed 197 photos to tell us what?
get rid of 185 of them keep the 12 best and your rating would go up several notches.

amateur

Oct 28 13 01:36 pm Link

Photographer

David Pollack

Posts: 1933

Wilmington, Delaware, US

kane wrote:
smile

smile($*>/
just saying

Oct 28 13 01:37 pm Link

Photographer

David Pollack

Posts: 1933

Wilmington, Delaware, US

AndyD10 wrote:
ok...

I wish the photos were "ok"

gwpw

Oct 28 13 01:38 pm Link

Photographer

David Pollack

Posts: 1933

Wilmington, Delaware, US

Leo Howard wrote:
Sounds fun, I'll play

spat, blurp, flat, those are all fun sounds.

If this is what "very experienced" looks like to you, maybe you shoudl stay with the "Sounds Fun" and give up on ltrying for ooks fun.

gwpw

Oct 28 13 01:41 pm Link

Photographer

David Pollack

Posts: 1933

Wilmington, Delaware, US

Glamour by Glenn wrote:
Time to put on my big boy shorts.

gwpgabbs

figure it out

Oct 28 13 01:42 pm Link

Photographer

David Pollack

Posts: 1933

Wilmington, Delaware, US

Oddlittleworld Arts wrote:
ok. lay it on me.

maybe I need a refresher course on what "very experienced" means.
amateur

Oct 28 13 01:44 pm Link

Photographer

David Pollack

Posts: 1933

Wilmington, Delaware, US

DAN CRUIKSHANK wrote:
Sure, if you are still at it.

50 photos, every single one exactly the same in their feeling, now that is impressive.

gwpw

Oct 28 13 01:45 pm Link

Photographer

David Pollack

Posts: 1933

Wilmington, Delaware, US

Jacky Francis wrote:
I'd love to get some input; just take a look at my portfolio and let me know what you think smile

gwpw

Oct 28 13 01:46 pm Link

Photographer

David Pollack

Posts: 1933

Wilmington, Delaware, US

EdwardKristopher wrote:
Isn't it all about the Paper Weight?!  :-)

244 images?? Please tell us just the one you think is your best.

gw(very large)pw

Oct 28 13 01:49 pm Link

Photographer

Rick Jolson

Posts: 54

Ellicott City, Maryland, US

go for it, ill try to keep my ego out of the way!

Oct 28 13 01:53 pm Link

Photographer

EdwardKristopher

Posts: 3409

Tempe, Arizona, US

David Pollack wrote:

244 images?? Please tell us just the one you think is your best.

gw(very large)pw

If Size Matters, I'm OK!  :-)

Oct 29 13 08:36 am Link

Photographer

EdwardKristopher

Posts: 3409

Tempe, Arizona, US

I just realized that you haven't uploaded a picture since March of 2012?  Ur too funni!  :-)

All these Amateurs and GWPW and worse that are out here!  It's incredible that you are even able to look at all these Crappy Ports without throwing up in you mouth...

I hope you have some Pepto Bismol for after looking at these pictures.

All the Best!
Edward

Oct 29 13 08:44 am Link

Photographer

Jorge Kreimer

Posts: 3716

San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico

David Pollack wrote:
you needed 197 photos to tell us what?
get rid of 185 of them keep the 12 best and your rating would go up several notches.

amateur

To show models that I can shoot in a wide variety of styles.

Oct 29 13 08:24 pm Link

Photographer

Rik Williams

Posts: 4005

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

David Pollack wrote:

Amateur

Cool, at least my 3 years, so far, in a diploma course haven't been a total waste.
wink

Oct 30 13 01:02 am Link