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After a very long break I started entering stuff in the contest again about mid-December. I think I entered almost every day for about 2.5 weeks...had 1 pic disqualified...then a week later another... and maybe a few days after that...another...which also got me "brigged"... I had some very nice help from one of the peeps in charge of the contest and they explained "the 3 strike rule". The "violation" I was guilty of is really,really subjective IMO...and they sort of agreed and suggested I could ask in advance of entering an image if it would pass muster...OK...Cool. But isn't that the same as submitting the pic and have it go thru the 2 day vetting before formal entry? At 1st I thought the mods were maybe getting offended by having to look at the images that didn't meet requirements but... if you submit them for "pre-approval"...they have to look at 'em anyway... I don't know...just seems like an extra step to me:)) Jan 03 18 08:14 pm Link I just had 3 in a row removed from 18+ so have a 15 day ban now after incurring another ban a few weeks ago...the modding is so arbitrary its a joke. I shall not enter anymore so the ban does not bother me. I see similar images in the contests that do not get removed and so I feel very aggrieved and picked on. grrrrrrr Jan 07 18 06:11 am Link So what was it that got removed from the contest? Jan 07 18 10:35 am Link Well...my confusion is why is there "penalties" for submitting images that "may or may not be accepted"...when they have to go thru the 2 day vetting period before entry in the 1st place? (But if we "ask" before submission and it gets rejected...no disciplinary action.) The mods of the contest are looking at them anyway...right???... It's not like I was submitting pix with dripping erections or penetration or macro shots of labia and anus' or things that would be a clear violation even to a moron. There was no intention to try and "sneak" something pornographic into the contests. The real question is this: If the mods are looking at them anyway...and there is no obvious intent in breaking the rules...why "brig" someone? Just seems counterproductive and un-necessary... My 2 cents:) Jan 07 18 01:09 pm Link Were they not mature enough? Did they not give you an explanation for the rejection? What procedure did they give you to have them prescreened? If they are borderline, I am not sure prescreening will save you anyway. What one approves, another might reject later. Jan 07 18 03:34 pm Link Maybe I'm not making myself clear... What's the diff between "pre-screening" and the standard 2 day vetting procedure? Why on earth is the latter subject to penalties and the other not? I honestly can't make sense of it:/ Jan 07 18 07:22 pm Link billy badfinger wrote: I have wondered at times if there is any screening on images entered into the contest, or how close they screen them. Some disappear after the contest is posted. By asking you what they suggested as a procedure, it helps to make clear what the differences are. There is no written policy that I have seen to distinguish the differences. We can hardly answer your questions since you seem to be the only one with the information. Jan 07 18 07:48 pm Link Were they spread shots ? I see a few shots in your port that to my limited understanding would not be contest legal I understand the rules are not clear but spread shots are skirting on the edge of disaster There is an old thread in site related where this was explained by Dean Johnson Jan 07 18 07:50 pm Link The person that I communicated with said that the rejected images prob were OK for use in a port but not in the contest. That's NOT my question though...please re-read all of my comments:/ It's possible as 1 comment suggested that in fact all of the images DON'T get looked at during the 2 day waiting period. I don't know... I've never had a pic "disappear" after the voting started...THAT would be strange:)) Jan 07 18 08:05 pm Link Hello there, Thank you for your entry to the Model Mayhem Pic of the Day 18+ Women. However, the following entry has been removed: Reason: This image contains at least one prohibited element and is not allowed in the contests. It is acceptable in your portfolio, but not in the contests - due to the fact that we're trying to clean up the contests. This is the message I received...After a short "chat" with the mod,it was decided that "there is too much "focus" on the genital area"... So I totally get that even tho it's quite subjective. THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION:)) Jan 07 18 08:12 pm Link That does appear to be the rule your image was disqualified under. While that image would be acceptable in your portfolio, the contests are a lot more stringent about images that appear to emphasize the genitals. As noted in the POTD rules: https://www.modelmayhem.com/education/s … td18_rules If you are unsure if your image will be disqualified, you are welcome to contact the moderation team to request help before you submit your entry. Your request will not be held against you. You can send us images you want to submit to the contests in advance via CAM or email ([email protected]) and we will be happy to take a look so you can avoid disqualifications. ......This is the reply from the mod re: how to pre-submit an image for approval..... Since someone asked:)) Jan 08 18 09:12 am Link That does appear to be the rule your image was disqualified under. While that image would be acceptable in your portfolio, the contests are a lot more stringent about images that appear to emphasize the genitals. As noted in the POTD rules: https://www.modelmayhem.com/education/s … td18_rules If you are unsure if your image will be disqualified, you are welcome to contact the moderation team to request help before you submit your entry. Your request will not be held against you. You can send us images you want to submit to the contests in advance via CAM or email ([email protected]) and we will be happy to take a look so you can avoid disqualifications. ......This is the reply from the mod re: how to pre-submit an image for approval..... Since someone asked:)) Jan 08 18 09:12 am Link Those are standard replies and say nothing really. My main gripe is that a 15 day ban ( 3rd removal ) is unfair since its not like my last image removed was obscene or disgusting, it didn't show enough! It was a nude from the side view. I referred other images that were still in the contest, in shorts, reclining nude that also showed nothing but they were not removed. Arbitrary modding or it all depends on if you are a Premium or VIP. The mens 18+ contest is getting less and less, I am guessing because the rules are misty to say the least ( one reply I always get when I refer to another image that remains is " yes that was close and we did discuss it and decided it was ok " and so members are losing confidence and not entering.....like me from now on. Jan 08 18 09:38 am Link IMHO this is part of the reason the site is losing members. If you are not allowed to have fun here why have the contests. yeah rules are rules but if you disqualify a picture and remove it that is all the penalty you need.Then as some pointed out this is not done conistance . Part of the problem is you give titles to people like moderator then they think that gives them power( how many people see this in the old chat rooms) There are many that feel this way not just me . the following is copy from another post You DO NOT bite the hand that feeds you. Unfortunately, thats exactly what has transpired here, as some short-sited MM administration and moderation actions terminated thousands of paid members, over simple squables in forum posting guidelines and minute rule violations. Those hundreds of thousands of dollars lost in paid membership banishment could have easily been avoided and recovered by exercising alittle bit more compassion and better judgement calls towards those paid MM members who were effected and banished. Jan 17 18 03:43 am Link I just came across this thread. I have noted for several months the decreasing participation in the forum contests. I used to enter frequently, but was out of the state last fall while working in Hurricane Relief in TX and FL. When I got back, the contests seemed pretty "dead". It now sometimes takes days to gather enough entries to even have competition. In addition to sometimes capricious and over zealous enforcement by the mods (purity police) it is discouraging that contests are often not concluded in a timely manner. I.E. it may take days after the stated ending time for voting for a host to announce and post a winner. Not infrequently, votes are recorded for hours or days after stated voting times have ended. Well, in defense of the hosts, it is a volunteer job (far as I know) and they generously contribute their time to running the contests. Just sayin. Apr 05 18 03:39 pm Link  Moderator Note!To answer the OP's question, the reason the mods request that you submit images for review BEFORE submitting to the contest is to help reduce 1) time it takes to go through the contest submissions by hand and weed out those that do not meet the rules and 2) chances human error will miss something that should be disqualified and result in a mature image being posted to the general contest. The team of moderators that review images is a consistent 3-5 people so if the mods tell you an image is acceptable for a contest, or not acceptable for a contest, that ruling will likely stick even if you submit it a month or two later. The site rules about images can be found here: https://www.modelmayhem.com/education/s … tent_rules Also be sure to check out https://www.modelmayhem.com/education/u … mage-rules The reason sometimes images are removed after voting has begun (or even ended) is if the image contained a prohibited element or was in the wrong contest and was not caught until after voting had begun (or ended). And for those who feel that being restricted from submitting to the contest for some number of days is unfair for submitting images incorrectly or to the wrong contest, I can attest that it takes rather a lot of time to review every submission and properly document any that are flagged for team-review or removal. On the days that I do this task it can easily take me an hour or more and the majority of time is spent on images that must be team-reviewed or removed, so the more people submit them without serious consideration of the site rules, the more of my personal volunteer time is wasted, which gets old fast. The contest brigging is an attempt to get more people to carefully read the rules and, where they are unclear, use the site's Contact a Moderator feature to get clarification before entering questionable images into the contests. Apr 05 18 08:31 pm Link Moderator Note!Locking this thread as the contests area of the forum is for contests only and not for discussion topics. Apr 05 18 08:32 pm Link |
