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Hi models, I've been doing nude modeling for over four years. I've so far stayed away from the more sexually explicit gigs, but am considering exploring that world. Can anyone give me a good reason why it is detrimental to have one's face attached to erotic images on the internet? I don't care about anyone I know seeing them, if they do, whatever. Modeling is not my primary career, so I don't want to accidentally prevent myself from any specific kind of employment, but I don't plan on ever working with children... in what cases would having these kinds of images out there actually cause problems for me in any tangible way? Thanks in advance for your input! Feb 12 19 04:09 pm Link I'm not sure how to advise you. I've worked with models who posed erotically. I like your look! Feb 13 19 09:17 pm Link I've always steered away from erotica because I'm involved in art nude/glamour nude for exactly that - to create beautiful artistic images. I keep erotica out of it because I only want to feel that way and enjoy that side of sexuality with my partner. If you don't feel like that's an issue for you, then this reasoning won't apply to you (and that's ok too). If I were considering it, I suppose I'd also worry about parents or close friends seeing it and, as I work in the corporate world, I'd have to worry about my colleagues potentially being judgemental and nasty about it. Ultimately it all comes down to how you feel about the above and whether or not they'd be issues for you. Whatever you decide though - you can't take it back once it's out there so be very sure. Feb 14 19 02:20 am Link You have probably already seen that there are judgemental people everywhere. Most of those who would condemn you for doing erotica are already prepared to cause trouble over mere nudes. If you are prepared to deal with the flack, go for it. Don’t plan to work with children or run for public office, and do plan to tell anybody who starts to be a problem that they need to go to Hell. The more you upfront and proud you are of what you do, the less flack you’re going to get. Feb 14 19 05:04 am Link Kelly Kooper wrote: There are many different motivations for shooting any genre. One can be shooting erotica and still be trying to make it artistic and not because it makes them "feel that way". Many I am sure do it for the profit motive and are actually otherwise bored by the images. To assume that those who shoot erotica are doing it primarily to get their jollies is simply not accurate. And conversely, there certainly are those who "feel that way" shooting lingerie or art nude/glamour. One can only evaluate their own motivations. Feb 14 19 01:12 pm Link Things to consider... Are you willing to sign a release with a copy of your ID attached? Are you OK with something being on the internet for eternity? Will the money you accrue compensate for the possibility that you may not be hired (or could be fired) after works featuring your likeness are discovered? Purely your decisions, best of luck to you! Feb 14 19 02:27 pm Link The only thing that would come back on you is how you feel about both it and the judgment of others who are less open-minded. If you don't have concerns about that, then in 2019? It's your body and your choices. Nobody has the right to impose their perspective on you, so go for it ... if you want to. Feb 15 19 06:08 am Link I've done erotic work, and what others have already told you is good advice. A couple of things to consider, first you should never use your real name in association with any sort of modelling that you don't want to be directly linked back to you. Many models who do explicit and erotic work use a stage name and keep a totally separate modelling profile for that. Secondly, it's not just working with children that might be negatively affected, there are still plenty of very conservative companies out there who would not approve of one of their employees even doing nudes, let alone anything more explicit. Eventually, you will be recognized. It's not a matter of if, but a matter of when and I've told this story before, about being stopped several times in public places like while shopping, by people who recognized me after having seen some of my nude work displayed in an art gallery or in the hallways of a university art building. Now they were all quite polite and wanted to compliment me, but I'm sure that people that a model works with or lives near are also eventually going to find her nude work and they might take issue with it. Feb 15 19 07:31 am Link Thanks everyone for all your input, I appreciate your replies! Feb 28 19 10:47 am Link Eye of the World wrote: I haven't assumed a photographer's motives for shooting that genre; just explained my thoughts on modelling erotica from my own perspective. I don't care why a photographer chooses to shoot erotica, nor have I made assumptions on the reasons in my post. Dec 21 19 01:57 am Link I am jumping in here because I have to strenuously object to the conflating of "erotic" with "sexually explicit", and also the use of "open leg" to mean, well, something vaguely pornographic. Some of the most erotic images in existence do not reveal anything more than a flash of thigh or shoulder or a sultry look, and "open leg" does not have to mean revealing a model's genitals, but even if it does, is that by definition pornographic? I don't think so. If a model does not want to pose in a certain way, fine and good, but at least let's agree on a terminology that is accurate and specific. And with that, Happy Holidays to all! Dec 24 19 01:34 pm Link you asked ... "in what cases would having these kinds of images out there actually cause problems for me in any tangible way? " If a prospective employer decided not to hire or promote you based on an image ... that would be an example of causing you a problem "in a tangible way". So you should try to figure how probable that might be and if you would care etc. Feb 17 20 05:35 pm Link It depends where you draw the line from erotic to porn....? Feb 17 20 07:50 pm Link Keep in mind that facial recognition keeps getting better and more widespread. The day will come when using a professional alias (modeling name) will be far less effective than it is now. Feb 23 20 12:55 pm Link All Yours Photography wrote: Its not as effective now as most people think Feb 25 20 06:18 pm Link I have shot with models who do nude and erotic purely for money, and I have shot with models who shoot for money but love and enjoy shooting the genres. It absolutely can affect negatively on other parts of your life. Not only about employment in areas dealing with children but in any other type of work. It can also affect personal relationships. If someone truly wants to work in these genres and they have carefully given it every consideration then they should follow their desire. I avoid new and inexperienced models for nude/erotic work. I want nothing to do with putting myself in a place of influencing for such work. Instead I look for models that are experienced in it and already comfortable in it. I am also more at ease when the model is 25 or older. I also enjoy coming up with anonymous ideas for erotica. Photographs with no identity’s. I have a few in my port like this. Mar 22 20 08:14 am Link SummerArcher wrote: It could be detrimental to many to have nude images in public places (such as the internet). Over the years I have had many people ask to be photographed fully nude (first time for them). Some absolutely want all or part of their genitals on display. Most, if not all, want the experience (and thrill) of being naked and being photographed completely naked. Some have asked that his or her face be obscured such that the person is not recognizable but that the rest of the body is fully visible. I have several of these images in my portfolio. And some of these people insist that I place the images on the internet such that many people will see the images. One of these people whom I worked with is someone who is extremely well known and whose career would probably be destroyed if a nude photo was seen by the public. The person is thrilled that so many have seen him or her naked. (Is this normal or abnormal? That is not the question. Is it profitable for the photographer? You'd better believe it!) So, going back to the original question - yes, it could be quite detrimental to some people if nude images of them were available to the public. Mar 22 20 12:14 pm Link I have worked with alot of models over the years who have posed in artistic nude as well as erotica and have only had one model say showing her face hurt her at her job. She was making 80k a year in adult modeling so she left the job and stuck to her modeling. I agree that this is something only you can decide as to the fallout from employers or family. I think it's great if a model is comfortable enough with herself to express herself in such content, but as we all know there are some close minded people who don't feel the same way. This is why I never approach a model for this type of work. I left them come to me and we go from there May 19 20 11:20 am Link Jul 28 20 10:43 am Link vexilian wrote: fixed that for Ya. Jul 28 20 04:40 pm Link SummerArcher wrote: Follow your gut. It definitely could hurt you considering the career choice you make and keep in mind that those wanting to shoot you in that field will give you all the reasons it will not be detrimental. Jul 29 20 05:24 am Link Shadow Dancer wrote: Good advice. Jul 29 20 05:25 am Link ChristopherRoss wrote: That's all well and good, but a bit naive. Employers impose their perspectives on workers and -- even more -- prospective hires, all the time. Jul 29 20 06:37 pm Link I shot some of the best erotic work I've ever done with a Santa Cruz 50 year old model. She was beautiful, sensual, and a great sense of humor. As doing erotic work is no big deal in her local community we never thought much about it. Did a couple shoots then it stopped. She wanted to get her degree in Early Child Development and was really concerned that people might find out - more the parents of the kids she worked with than co-workers. I pulled down all of her work to protect her. She was cool with doing the shoots but there are a lot of uptight parents out there. I use my full name in my photography as I feel if someone is going to look me up to defame me, there are a million ways to do it. Stage names do nothing now in the world of image search. You can try to build a double identity but so much personal data is collected and sold anymore that you literally can't keep your identity hidden behind a fake gmail account. Be sure of what you are doing, consider potential risks (most people don't care at all) and do what works for you. Be proud of the work you do and don't apologize. You probably have a far more interesting life than those complaining. OP: Nice port! May 28 21 02:16 pm Link Most of my earlier career was posing nude and doing erotic photoshoots and videos. Being a part of that I do not believe I would have found any success if I was not willing to show my face. Showing your face is part of the eroticism and honestly it is the most beautiful part of a person. I have also been recognized online and in public because of it so that is certainly a risk. Jun 03 21 09:54 am Link Just my opinion, but the simple solution is to never model for something you're ashamed of. Jun 04 21 03:46 pm Link Here in the UK, there are several popular and accomplished 'anonymous' nude and erotic models, or at least there used to be prior to Covid-19! Anonymous because the shoot agreement is that their face will not be shown in published images, and hence is obscured by hair, the angle of shooting, a mask or some other object. I know that a couple of them are agency models who need to avoid jeopardising the relationship with their agency and its clients. There will be other reasons too. They're excellent in those genres and perhaps the security of anonymity lends itself to becoming confident and successful nude and erotic models? Jun 09 21 06:11 pm Link It so depends on the definition of "erotica" and how it is done. I have done a variety of shoots including some erotic shoots, but I remain as proud of them as any of my work, as they were done artistically and with great sensitivity. The only work I've ever been unhappy with has been where - for whatever reason - the job falls flat, regardless of the genre... Jun 13 21 11:39 pm Link Afghanistan??? Jun 14 21 07:37 pm Link zombie thread Jun 29 21 03:46 pm Link |