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Now that I've been threatened with "blacklisting" by the model in question, whom I will have remain nameless for the moment, I'd love to hear some input from the general group. Here's the story, from MY perspective and with some notes from hers: I was contacted by and very much liked the work of a model nearly a year ago and wanted to work with her when she came through Oregon on her Spring tour -- shooting outdoor nudes. I paid her a $200 deposit. Shortly after, of course, COVID reared its ugly head and she cancelled the tour. I told her to keep the deposit (figuring that any 20-something was unlikely to not have used it already on something like food) and we'd try to catch up somewhere in the future. She finally rescheduled for Oregon in October, not the best weather window for outdoors. My circumstances have also changed with Covid and I no longer have a studio environment so I suggested shooting some messy clay stuff and "rustic bath" in my overgrown back yard, noting that we could then have hot water from the house and easy cleanup afterwards. In all honesty, I had NOT read her EXTREMELY DETAILED website other than to admire the thing. It's really good! And it shows off her sense of humor quite nicely. I was stoked! A few days prior our shoot, she made sure to point out the section of the site explaining that she has incredibly severe allergies to gluten and things found in household cooking/environments. I checked through it and immediately rethought what we were doing and was able to find a non-cooking AirBnB that was really interesting and talked with its owner, who stressed that they were on a really strict cleaning regimen. I sent pictures to the model and outlined the new location prior to renting it and only did so after she responded with "excited to shoot"! Thirty minutes prior the shoot, she sent me a note saying that due to her allergies she couldn't be inside at all and suggested that I tear down my setup, repack for outdoor shooting in the rainy darkness-quickly-falling evening and surely that would work out fine? I was peeved. Miffed, even. I was not prepared to shoot outdoors and the night looked pretty crappy. Heavy sigh. I told her that this obviously was not going to work out in the moment, wished her well and suggested she keep the deposit simply because she's on the road and this was clearly some kind of miscommunication. Here's the relevant portion of her dozen+ page outline of things she can and cannot do: "I love shooting in clean studios, sets, in nature, and urban locations. But I avoid working in houses, home studios, hotels, and most abandoned locations. Although I greatly appreciate your offers of food and hospitality, I can't accept food that I do not prepare myself. I also ask that you please refrain from using heavy scents (i.e. candles, air fresheners, incense, perfumes) during our shoot." Since I had changed locations and sent pictures of the new one, none of the above seemed to rule out a clean non-cooking location. Imagine my surprise when she sends me an invoice for the non-shoot and a threat to "blacklist" me for nonpayment as well as contact models I've worked with to spread this story. This seems like a clear miscommunication. She probably should simply warn photographers that she WILL NOT WORK INDOORS but this was not the impression I was under when booking. I feel bad that we didn't get to work together in Spring, outdoors, happy as clams as high tide. I think I'd normally enjoy this person. But I see this as a cancellation on HER part, not mine. I was set and waiting. I also recognize that this isn't black and white. My take is that I provided a clean studio environment and had sent pictures ahead of time. Her 30-minutes-out refusal constitutes a cancellation. Thoughts, anyone? Oct 22 20 11:29 am Link ExhibitPhoto wrote: Send her an invoice for the rental location that apparently would have worked and for all the deposits you have given her. Also just tell her that she cost you money and she should be careful about threatening you, as she is edging towards blackmail, and that you have paid her more than she deserved, and will never hire her every again, and will be happy to tell other photographers of her hostile behaviour. Oct 22 20 12:07 pm Link LA StarShooter wrote: . Oct 22 20 01:49 pm Link Ken Marcus summed it up pretty well. To say the was unreasonable is an understatement. Oct 22 20 02:04 pm Link ExhibitPhoto wrote: Yeah, Wow! Oct 22 20 02:05 pm Link Thanks all. I'm really bummed -- if I take her at face value about serious and significant allergies, she's trying to work under really tough conditions. I've received about a dozen messages from her now with threats of "telling the story" which I just plain don't understand. What story? She refused to even look at the space and suddenly couldn't be in ANY indoor situation. That's not what her website says. I'm not deeply worried about finding the cat in a crockpot as I assume she's long gone but it's unsettling and weird. I kind of assume her tour isn't going well and she may be desperate. Oct 22 20 02:14 pm Link ExhibitPhoto wrote: ! ! ! ExhibitPhoto wrote: Over and above the deposit, what was she charging you for? Oct 22 20 04:44 pm Link Casually remind her that vampires can work indoors when they are invited. Oct 22 20 05:30 pm Link ExhibitPhoto wrote: When booking, I believe you said you didn't read this model's 'extremely detailed’ website. ExhibitPhoto wrote: Knowing you no longer had a photo studio environment to meet the model’s requirements, you conclude that a non-cooking airBnB meets your definition of a clean studio environment. ExhibitPhoto wrote: At 30 minutes out your model makes one final request and suggests you move the shoot outdoors. You refuse and conclude that her request is tantamount to her cancelling what to begin with was agreed to be an outdoor nude shoot in Spring. Oct 24 20 04:48 pm Link I think the key word here is miscommunication. When viewed from both the models viewpoint (medical and website information) and yours (deposits and good communication) you both have valid viewpoints. Maybe I'm too reasonable but I would politely write the model informing here of the loss of deposits, loss of location costs, etc and offer to call quits due to a mutual communication issue. If she doesn't agree, that's the time to send her an invoice. Nov 06 20 01:39 am Link ExhibitPhoto wrote: Libel is libel. How many lawsuits waiting in the shadows from "blacklisting" and "outing"? From one-sided, texted gossip and rumors (perhaps in secret models only forums?) to flat out slander in face-to-face discussions these are still character assassinations that often go unknown by the person being spoken about. Nov 06 20 03:56 am Link If the caveats on her website corroborate what she messaged you, then I don't think you have much of a legal case. Nov 06 20 08:22 am Link I know some members have suggested legal action but it mostly doesn't work out. Actually you sound like a nice person. Letting her keep the $200 was a class act. Going forward, read what models say on their profiles carefully. Based on what you've said I would have avoided her. Some folks are pains in the as#. So what should you do? I wouldn't respond anymore to her foolishness. If she wants to go on social networks, etc. What could you do anyway. I'm sorry this happened to you. Nov 06 20 06:40 pm Link |