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Paolo D Photography

Posts: 11502

San Francisco, California, US

For you guys that have been around the block, what do you think is going to happen soon with the job market?
Whats a good industry to go into?

I'm looking for a new job.
Theres openings near me for "skateboard instructor" and "stick shift driving instructor" and "childrens entertainer as a Princess or Superhero".

I think i'm old enough now that falling off a skateboard might hurt. I would actually like teaching people to drive manual (in a parking lot), except they want the trainer to use their own car, and also i hate people. So being a Princess seems like the best option. 

Photography has been off the table, and now being a stunt cock in someone else's OF content is no longer an option. I really don't know what else I could possibly be good at.

I want a job that i dont have to commute very far to, dont have to deal with public, or work weekends, and just sit in one climate controlled space all day not working very hard or getting dirty. it would be nice if there was good music and beer there too i could drink while i worked. i wouldnt even care if i was underpaid. whats that job called?

recently found out im not going to get my old job back, naturally i found that out right after i turned down a 6 figure income job, and then the other day i turned down another opportunity because didnt want to commute, even though it was decent pay for doing something i enjoy doing for fun. ...in hindsight maybe those were less than stellar decisions. so, I'm sorta lost here.

Aug 23 21 03:36 am Link

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Ken Marcus Studios

Posts: 9421

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Maybe you are not the right sort of person to hold a job . . .

Why not start your own business and not worry about having a job

I've never had a job in my life . . .

Aug 23 21 10:38 pm Link

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rxz

Posts: 1101

Glen Ellyn, Illinois, US

My dad had an uncle who bought a farm and then was paid by the government not to grow crops.  But then he got greedy and tried to get the government to pay him for not raising pigs on the same land.  That's an option..  .

Aug 24 21 08:10 am Link

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John Silva Photography

Posts: 590

Fairfield, California, US

Paolo D Photography wrote:
I'm sorta lost here.

You're not lost, you're just like 50% of the job force in America.
The problem has always been there just that just like that farmer getting paid to not raise crops, now most employees are getting paid not to work!
BOTTOM LINE....?
IF you are an employer, it doesn't matter HOW many employees you have. All of the time you are short handed so you can't fire anyone but at any given time 1/2 of your employees are SOOO lazy and their work ethic is SOOO poor that you want to fire 50% of them but you can't because even SH*T employees to replace them is impossible to find, let alone a good employee.
So all of those with jobs right now are the employees you always wish you had that are good but you have to pay them more and all those sitting around weighing all their options are the 50% that you always wanted to FIRE but couldn't!! Employers are really scrambling to find enough help but don't actually know how good they actually have it.
So as all the SH*T workers sitting around weighing their options while sitting on their asses enjoying their government subsidized vacations, will run out of subsidy just in time to find out that employers have come to terms with being short handed with a few good employees and the SH*T will not find jobs as always except for the employer to wish that they could fire them but can't. Shit employees, we all know them. They can't can't talk and work at the same time, they look at their phones every five minutes, they send and receive text because there's always an emergency, They have to show you snippets of videos and have to prove on their phones just how dumb the kids/grandkids are, they go to the bathroom 10 times a day and think chew and vaping on the job is OK!
And so it will have come full circle....., again!!!
John

Aug 24 21 09:37 am Link

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Paolo D Photography

Posts: 11502

San Francisco, California, US

John Silva Photography wrote:

You're not lost, you're just like 50% of the job force in America.
The problem has always been there just that just like that farmer getting paid to not raise crops, now most employees are getting paid not to work!
BOTTOM LINE....?
IF you are an employer, it doesn't matter HOW many employees you have. All of the time you are short handed so you can't fire anyone but at any given time 1/2 of your employees are SOOO lazy and their work ethic is SOOO poor that you want to fire 50% of them but you can't because even SH*T employees to replace them is impossible to find, let alone a good employee.
So all of those with jobs right now are the employees you always wish you had that are good but you have to pay them more and all those sitting around weighing all their options are the 50% that you always wanted to FIRE but couldn't!! Employers are really scrambling to find enough help but don't actually know how good they actually have it.
So as all the SH*T workers sitting around weighing their options while sitting on their asses enjoying their government subsidized vacations, will run out of subsidy just in time to find out that employers have come to terms with being short handed with a few good employees and the SH*T will not find jobs as always except for the employer to wish that they could fire them but can't. Shit employees, we all know them. They can't can't talk and work at the same time, they look at their phones every five minutes, they send and receive text because there's always an emergency, They have to show you snippets of videos and have to prove on their phones just how dumb the kids/grandkids are, they go to the bathroom 10 times a day and think chew and vaping on the job is OK!
And so it will have come full circle....., again!!!
John

sounds like a bad personal experience?

Aug 24 21 05:09 pm Link

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Paolo D Photography

Posts: 11502

San Francisco, California, US

rxz wrote:
My dad had an uncle who bought a farm and then was paid by the government not to grow crops.  But then he got greedy and tried to get the government to pay him for not raising pigs on the same land.  That's an option..  .

i can't afford any land, at least not around here, but maybe there is an option like that.
getting paid to not do something i don't want to expend the energy to do in the first place seems like a pretty sweet deal.

Aug 24 21 05:14 pm Link

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Paolo D Photography

Posts: 11502

San Francisco, California, US

hmmmm...
any suggestions what sort of occupation to go into?

i was worried there would be another shut down, but doesnt seem so? despite how bad covid gets.
didnt want to work far from home, but seems like no better option.
i also dont want to deal with the public, but not much available like that.
i could work for taco bell, but have no experience in food, so i guess i can work for skynet?
perhaps i will build the robots that will destroy all humans.

Sep 02 21 10:09 pm Link

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Managing Light

Posts: 2678

Salem, Virginia, US

Do you like to build things with your hands?  I keep seeing company signs looking for welders, carpenters, etc.  Community colleges have courses for these skills, and companies will often hire workers to train for these jobs.

I have a grandson who is finishing up a community  college course in welding.  His plan is to get a job and get a SCUBA certification so he can start training for underwater welding.

Sep 03 21 11:06 am Link

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Paolo D Photography

Posts: 11502

San Francisco, California, US

Managing Light wrote:
Do you like to build things with your hands?  I keep seeing company signs looking for welders, carpenters, etc.  Community colleges have courses for these skills, and companies will often hire workers to train for these jobs.

I have a grandson who is finishing up a community  college course in welding.  His plan is to get a job and get a SCUBA certification so he can start training for underwater welding.

its probably because i spent so many years building things with my hands that i used up both my hands and now they dont work so well. im all out of hands. sometimes it hurts just typing a reply here. im hesitant to take a job that is physically taxing now because i just dont have capacity for it anymore, or rather not something i can handle for many more years. im not getting any younger. however, my skills elsewhere are sort of limited or i limit myself because I dont want to do boring ass work.

so i feel like i just got too old to do the jobs i normally would, and too late to learn new skills doing something i would hate.

Sep 03 21 11:48 am Link

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LightDreams

Posts: 4462

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

I'm not sure that this will be of any help or not, but just in case...

Here, we have a range of Gov't paid retraining programs, in a variety of different ways.   Some will test you to try and suggest different areas that might work for you going forward.

Other programs will pay you, once approved, a small amount (similar to the amount paid by unemployment insurance) to keep you going while you are being retrained, as well as paying for the retraining courses.

Yet another program pays a similar amount while you are working to become self employed in some field of work.  Again, think of it like unemployment insurance except your being paid while you're building what's probably a small one-man business, instead of being out looking for work.

The logic is that if they can get someone on their feet and (down the road) supporting themselves and paying taxes, then it makes sense for them to offer it.  Especially compared to the various support costs down the road for the opposite scenario.

Now I understand that things will be quite different in different countries and, of course, in different States.  And I don't claim to have the first clue what is and what isn't available there. But still, it might be worth checking around to see if any of these options exist in some form or another.

Just in case, something turns up that interests you and/or proves useful...?

Sep 03 21 01:14 pm Link

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Ken Marcus Studios

Posts: 9421

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Become a Plumber !
Better yet, Become a Plumbing Contractor (you don't get dirty hands by owning the business)

Plumbers never go without work . . . people use the toilet and sink every day whether or not there is high or low unemployment. During the depression they were about the only skilled laborers that worked all the time.

Sep 03 21 01:22 pm Link

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Paolo D Photography

Posts: 11502

San Francisco, California, US

Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
Become a Plumber !
Better yet, Become a Plumbing Contractor (you don't get dirty hands by owning the business)

Plumbers never go without work . . . people use the toilet and sink every day whether or not there is high or low unemployment. During the depression they were about the only skilled laborers that worked all the time.

your suggestion reminded me of how i fixed my sink drain after the plumber the landlord hired to fix it failed to fix it.
he was a cool dude though. i also repaired his guitar for him. haha.

its not that i wouldnt be capable of such a trade, but dealing with peoples doo doo pipes is a hard pass.
its a good suggestion though, in terms of a necessary service.
i dont have any money to invest in starting a business, so thats another consideration.
i'm open to starting something, but it would have to be something that doesnt take much to get started and doesnt need special equipment or licensing. also i suck at admin stuff.

on the bright side; i've gotten a response from every potential employer i've contacted so far.
thats also why im being picky.
kind of hoping to hear back from the robotics job next week.
i wasnt joking about doing that.
the only requirement to work there is to wear hipster glasses. (thats a joke)

Sep 04 21 12:13 pm Link

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Ken Marcus Studios

Posts: 9421

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

If the Plumbing business doesn't interest you, there are lots of other things you can do.
You can start a SHOE SHINE BUSINESS for next to nothing,
To become a shoe shiner, you do not need any formal education or training.

These days a shoe shine costs about $8 to $15 for shoes and $10 to $20 for boots for a simple shoe shine.
Shoe Shiner's average $12.oo per hour, and are their own boss.

There's always jobs for people that really want to work.  (No Joke)

Sep 04 21 05:56 pm Link

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Ken Marcus Studios

Posts: 9421

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Double Post . . . .

Sep 04 21 05:57 pm Link

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Paolo D Photography

Posts: 11502

San Francisco, California, US

are people really shining shoes in your town?
do people even wear shoes like that?
your ideas are intriguing.

maybe i'll just find a rich sugar momma instead of working. tongue

Sep 05 21 12:31 am Link

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Znude!

Posts: 3320

Baton Rouge, Louisiana, US

Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
Become a Plumber !
Better yet, Become a Plumbing Contractor (you don't get dirty hands by owning the business)

Plumbers never go without work . . . people use the toilet and sink every day whether or not there is high or low unemployment. During the depression they were about the only skilled laborers that worked all the time.

Damn. Almost exactly what my father told me when I was young. He owned a plumbing and heating / ac business. And although I don't do plumbing work I've held a plumbing license for over forty years out of respect for him. I figure if worse came to worse I could always either get a job as or start a business in plumbing.

He justified it by pointing out that every time a baby was born there was one more person who would probably someday need to hire a plumber.

Sep 06 21 10:59 am Link

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Tony Lawrence

Posts: 21526

Chicago, Illinois, US

Paolo, I've heard about this thing called photography, rumor has it if you're good at people will pay you.
Just an ideal....

Sep 07 21 04:00 pm Link

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Paolo D Photography

Posts: 11502

San Francisco, California, US

Tony Lawrence wrote:
Paolo, I've heard about this thing called photography, rumor has it if you're good at people will pay you.
Just an ideal....

the rumor you've heard is true. however, other than a few gigs here and there i stopped doing photography professionally in 2014. i think theres even less need for another photographer right now considering the lack of events and already saturated market. pay could be decent, perks could be great tongue

Sep 08 21 12:05 pm Link

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Paolo D Photography

Posts: 11502

San Francisco, California, US

im going to try and work a job in a liberry.
it seems pretty chill, cuz i just sit there with a bunch of books and axe homeless people watching porn on the computers to turnt it down.
seems like a chill job.

Sep 08 21 08:01 pm Link

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peter vic

Posts: 57

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Get a Government Job. Be first in line for all the counterfeit money, plus ... you really don't have to know anything!

Sep 13 21 04:46 pm Link

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rick lesser

Posts: 1116

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

I was going to say you should try stand up. But then there is the travel thing.  Have you considered voice overs or audio books?  Freelance writer? Why not teach a photography class? R-

Sep 21 21 06:21 pm Link

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Paolo D Photography

Posts: 11502

San Francisco, California, US

im considering being a super villain just need to find a hollowed out volcano to move into.

Sep 28 21 03:42 pm Link

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Paolo D Photography

Posts: 11502

San Francisco, California, US

i started a new job the end of last week.
in some ways its not as nice as not having a job.

Nov 08 21 09:09 pm Link

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goofus

Posts: 808

Santa Barbara, California, US

Tony Lawrence wrote:
this thing called photography, rumor has it if you're good at people will pay you.

^^^fake news

Nov 09 21 09:49 am Link

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Paolo D Photography

Posts: 11502

San Francisco, California, US

even though dressing up a like a princess and teaching people how to drive a stick shift car while delivering weed, and pizzas in my plumber van is exciting, im thinking about quitting my job to become a sugar baby.

all my genius sadly has less earning potential than being a hot young female who is professionally sexy.
that is the state of the world today in regards to what society values.
after looking over the contract my current employer has with me, my potential sugar momma said my salary amount wasnt worth it to her, for me to be away from her.

what do you guys think is the best career move?

Nov 10 21 08:21 pm Link

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Bob Helm Photography

Posts: 18911

Cherry Hill, New Jersey, US

peter vic wrote:
Get a Government Job. Be first in line for all the counterfeit money, plus ... you really don't have to know anything!

Or actually do anything. If you do they may fire you.

Nov 11 21 06:53 am Link

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Paolo D Photography

Posts: 11502

San Francisco, California, US

Bob Helm Photography wrote:

Or actually do anything. If you do they may fire you.

i dont think thats how it works.

Nov 14 21 03:57 pm Link