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IG - Model online but does not respond
I often use IG for conversations with models but some 'models' are online and seeing my message but do not respond. This morning (Saturday) was a model who wanted a shoot and I offered it late Friday afternoon. She was online but did not respond. Saturday morning I get up and see she has been gong off and online and still no answer to me. I am planning my weekend, the clock is now after 9:00 without any answer from her so I can send her a note telling her I will be doing other things this weekend since I did not get any response from her and sign off to skip all the nasty messages sure to come. I have done this many times before. One model in Miami has a known issue of never responding for at least 1-2 days. I know other photographers that have cancelled her just for that. We make an offer, we see the model is online, she does not respond in any way, we wait a day without a response, and then the offer is withdrawn. Nov 27 21 06:58 am Link Thankfully one never sees that happen on MM. Lack of a response is itself a response. Yes it is frustrating and rude but should not be unexpected There can be situations that preempt a timely response, illness, accidents etc Nov 27 21 07:32 am Link As much as i dislike the idea of replying to a photographer who is asking in the model section of this forum about why he hasnt received a response from a female on a social media platform that is unrelated to this site, here goes... have you ever seen the inbox of an attractive female? i'm guessing no. otherwise you'd realize your message is a drop in the ocean. your expectations for communication are unfortunately not realistic. Nov 27 21 02:55 pm Link Some people don't like being side-tracked by immediately responding to messages in order to meet the priorities and expectations of the Sender. Their focus can be on the work they are currently doing or have already accepted. And to prioritize and respond to only those modelling job offers that meet their criteria. My suggestion is to reset your expectations and not to retaliate with pointless messages stating your offer has expired. Nov 27 21 05:19 pm Link No response is a response. I would rather they not respond than get into a message thread that is going to lead nowhere. If they don't respond they are not really interested in shooting with you. If they respond a few days late, they will probably set a shoot and cancel or show up 2 hours late. Nov 27 21 07:13 pm Link It could also be a marketing ploy on her part to give the impression she's SO BUSY doing other shoots.... that it takes her a few days to respond. Just a thought. Nov 28 21 09:14 am Link Move on … It happens to all of us Nov 28 21 11:32 am Link Dean, you've been around long enough to know that the Internet is a great tool, but certainly NOT foolproof! What did we do in the past before electronic messaging on websites? We called on the phone! We met in person! Sure, the Internet is a great tool to reach more people at once, but people have lives. There are always other things going on in our lives. Most people don't reply to messages right away. It's not like you are calling them on the phone, right?. They have the choice to answer whatever messages they get, and models get a lot of messages! Being that I am old school, I don't depend on messaging on one website as a primary method of confirming a photo shoot. I use multiple methods of communication whenever possible to eliminate the chances that I might be communicatinig with a Catfish or fake profile. After all, even Modelmayhem has had fake profiles, one that even became a "gatekeeper!" I have the cellphone number of any model that I have booked. It's business! Utility companies, medical offices, and most any other businesses that make appointments will text message a reminder or even call you to remind you of an appointment .. sometimes using two or more methods of reaching you. Sometimes people ignore the calls or messages meant to confirm the day before. It does not happen often with me, but if I don't receive a confirmation from the model, then I prepare for that time as if I expect the model wont show. If she shows, then I am still ready to shoot. If not, I always have a back up plan, or something else I can do. Don't waste time waiting! You said that this was someone who wanted to shoot with you? If they are not responding now, then move on to find someone else to shoot with. You are wasting your time trying to read their minds, or figure out why. You might also want to reread some of your sent messages just to be sure that you were clear, and did not write anything that could be misinterpreted. If you keep messaging that same person without having received a response, it might give the impression of desperation. They might even be turned off by something such as messaging them too often? If you didn't get a confirmation and you have not previously met the model in person, you might be getting catfished! Nov 28 21 12:37 pm Link OP:How long have you been doing this ? Nov 29 21 12:03 pm Link I've been doing models for about 15 years. What has changed is now i am making money and willing to spend it on models as opposed to when I started and I was in TFP land which is really like being back in high school trying to get a date with all the games played. So if I send a IG and a model does not respond in 24 hours while I see she is online then I will assume she is not interested and going elsewhere. Nov 29 21 12:31 pm Link DeanLautermilch wrote: "I've been doing models?" Working with? Hiring? Collaborating with? Nov 29 21 06:35 pm Link Stalking = creepy You're just glutton for heartbreak and disappointment if you sit there and count the hours they've been last online and haven't responded to your the DM. I'd like to think most folks on here are at least 12 years old and have long past their pubescent stage. Jeezus. If you ever start contacting models on Facebook, it's going to be the same thing. Just like MM. Just like IG. Until they confirm the day before, best to consider everything "tentative" even if they act like they are interested. Even if you are paying them. What has changed is now i am making money and willing to spend it on models as opposed to when I started and I was in TFP land which is really like being back in high school trying to get a date with all the games played. Well, in that case, in the Castings section, there are currently 16 models within 100 miles of Sebring, FL just waiting for you. No need to go to IG. Maybe if models got gigs here on MM, they'd be more active here, on MM. Nov 30 21 10:42 am Link people watch movies on instagram, reel after reel after reel this is another reason someone may show as online and not interested in responding to DMs. its easy to lose a reel forever if they exit the viewing platform to do to a DM many people, especially with active group chats and messages, are not interested in entertaining them all the time. its easy to have a very different experience if you don't have active group chats or messages from strangers. but this isn't everyone's experience. also yes sure they could be ignoring you specifically, or literally forgetting to check all their DMs even if they respond to their friends alot Dec 01 21 11:12 am Link DeanLautermilch wrote: Your timeline is not quite clear to me. Dec 02 21 01:36 am Link I dunno 'bout Instagram, but there are several websites that I frequent that show I'm online when I'm not, often because I didn't logout of the site. Dec 04 21 09:02 am Link HOTTIE SHOTS wrote: Although there could be numerous other factors involved and speaks volumes of who You are attempting to work with I've learned to live with this. Dec 05 21 04:34 am Link 
Photographer Posts: 67 Neumayer - permanent station of Germany, Sector claimed by Norway, Antarctica We have lots of tabs open on our computers/phones all day. Just because we're "online" doesn't mean we are looking at that page at that moment. As a model and producer myself, I'm on many platforms and am working off and on all day: responding to inquiries, shooting, planning, editing, uploading, etc.... I allocate certain times of day to respond to emails and dms. There are blocks of time when I do not respond. Occasionally, I get messaged by someone whose modus operandi is like the OP... yand I see a message from 12 hours ago that was sent after I stopped working for the day.... but I can't respond because the messages go like this: (sent at 8pm) Hello, I'm interested in _________. (sent at 8:05pm) ???????? (sent at 8:07pm) Are you there??????????? (sent at 8:30pm) *You can no longer message this person because they have blocked you* And all I think to myself is "phew.... dodged that bullet." LOL. Life is too short to deal with assholes. Dec 05 21 08:58 am Link DeanLautermilch wrote: Paolo D Photography wrote: Let me add that messages from people who the girl doesn't know can be setup so that they go to a seldom seen "Message Requests" folder, where it will languish with a lot of other messages from people they don't know. Does it show that the message was actually READ? You just mention that the model was online. Depending on how attractive a person is, or how famous, reading and answering each and every message won't be feasible. Dec 05 21 10:19 am Link Francisco Castro wrote: The point being that all possibilities are equally weighted such that you can't assume any Dec 08 21 02:32 pm Link No response = response. But of course, feel free to complain about models in the Model Colloquy forum... I'm sure that will inspire other models to contact you. ;-) Dec 24 21 10:07 am Link Paolo D Photography wrote: This. So much this. Dec 26 21 11:36 pm Link Skydancer Photos wrote: This applies to real life, not just modeling and Model Mayhem. Dec 30 21 07:33 am Link Beating a dead horse . . . . Dec 30 21 07:52 pm Link Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
Dec 31 21 07:18 am Link Keep on moving  Jan 04 22 10:59 am Link DeanLautermilch wrote: You'll likely get all kinds of responses that are going to make you wish you never asked that question, here on this platform at least.. But I agree with what another poster mentioned, just move on - No answer is a NO answer. The way I see it, if they can't communicate (especially when you're offering pay) then they likely don't have the ambition/professionalism to actually follow through with the shoot, or even then make it worth your time and money. You may get a response in a few days/weeks when their resources are low.. that happens as well. Jan 10 22 02:42 pm Link Bob Helm Photography wrote: No response is indeed a response. It's a response that says "Hi! I'm lazy, unprofessional, don't take my job seriously, and think far too highly of myself to bother with common courtesy or to follow up on sales leads." Jul 19 22 10:39 am Link It is very simple. You didn't have anything to offer that really interested the model. If you create desire, then the model will follow through. So look at what you were offering the model. Usually, if there is big $$$ or a fantastic TFP opportunity that is going to provide the model with exceptional images that will improve her career and you give usage rights, the model will be interested. I've had over 600 successful photoshoots with models from MM. I've had my share of no-shows and no communication too. It is just the way things work. Sometimes it is an advantage to offer the model transportation, food and refreshment. Spend some time to look at your communication to the model and see if you were offering some kind of benefit or was it just more of the same that the model sees 10 times a day. Not everyone wants to shoot with me. I don't want to shoot with everyone. However, I endevour to reply kindly, in a timely (for me) fashion. Jul 19 22 11:55 am Link Usually if you message a model and they don't respond, it means they're not particularly interested in working with you. That could be for any number of reasons; you may be too far away for them to travel for example. Or they may just hate your work. Do you really want to know, or need to know? If they don't want to work with you, you can't work with them. Or pay them to work with you. The actual reason is irrelevant, or anyway academic. Jul 20 22 04:56 am Link do not utilize ig for anything involving art of business, if you really have what it takes you wouldn't have an ig, ig is facebook, it's general population cess pool Jul 20 22 06:08 am Link Malleus Veritas wrote: Or it could mean that I am too busy with either my real job or modeling work, I dont like your style, dont do the genre I am interested in , you are too far away , you have a bad reputation or your work sucks. Jul 20 22 08:03 am Link Papro wrote: Some models seem to prefer Instagram over modelling sites, probably for reasons of self-publicity. They want as many people as possible to see their pictures and videos. Jul 21 22 03:20 am Link Paolo D Photography wrote: In some circumstances, perhaps. In others, not so much. Jul 31 22 11:44 am Link DeanLautermilch wrote: I see this in non-photography related work also. Team members complain about each other or other teams, "they don't answer my email", "they ignored our request", "their answer is too brief." Communication is a challenge in all types of jobs and that's why professionals hire managers just to do that. Unfortunately many photographers are just a single person team, so it is hard to deal with all these. It needs patience and more understanding of the other side. Maybe your job is not as important to the model as it is to you, so such misalignment may result in cancelations. If she is a model you really want to work with, maybe try other methods of communications, put in some more effort. If not, just let it go and find someone else. Aug 10 22 11:25 am Link |
